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WantToBeAMamma · 06/07/2023 16:48

AIBU to be upset that my daughters teacher took off 5 marks from her exam total because she doodled on the back of the paper while waiting to be allowed to leave the exam. She would have got 96% without the deduction. See attached the offending doodle. Teachers comment was "minus 5 marks for graffiti at the back. I have told you many times its not on."

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Deathbyfluffy · 07/07/2023 08:05

WantToBeAMamma · 06/07/2023 18:13

Because in this day and age where kids get up to all sorts this hardly seems like the worse crime to do. She clearly has worked hard to get a good result and shouldn't be punished for being arty.

She needs to learn where being ‘arty’ is appropriate, though.
She clearly has a problem with authority if she keeps doing it despite being asked not to, so punishment seems reasonable to try and get the message to sink in IMO

Spinet · 07/07/2023 09:35

OP my daughter uses sketching as a way to self-regulate. She's allowed to do it in class because it's a need identified by an ed psych. She is on the list to have a diagnosis of ASD and while I'm not saying that's what your daughter has, if drawing is something that helps her deal with the stress of exams it might be worth putting something more formal in place.

Otherwise I can't get heated either way. The teacher is wasting energy by focusing on it imo but she is learning to deal with grumpy teachers/people and work to a brief. I wish the world did bend around individual personality/need but alas it doesn't.

TheWalrusdidbeseech · 07/07/2023 10:08

WantToBeAMamma · 07/07/2023 00:49

She's really not that arty OP.

Please share your qualification to make this judgement as her art teacher seems to be of a different opinion.

no need to fret, just good luck with that Turner Prize.

MermaidEyes · 07/07/2023 10:16

Still curious to know how old daughter is. Notice OP hasn't actually ever said.

WantToBeAMamma · 07/07/2023 10:34

Of course I'm not out to undermine the teachers authority and always encourage my children to respect all school staff . I think any one who teaches in this day and age with the level of respect in classrooms are very brave and commendable. My main gripe is that there was no positive comment on the exam paper even though she achieved a high mark after much revision. I feel that besides the reprimand it could have been balanced out with some positivity, to encourage her to continue putting effort in when revising.

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OLDERME · 07/07/2023 11:02

Well, she seems to have 'learned' that lesson. So well done for re-inforcing the rule. Guess you can let it go now.😀

WantToBeAMamma · 07/07/2023 14:15

How old are you thinking?

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cardibach · 07/07/2023 17:47

Mischance · 06/07/2023 19:15

I am with your DD. The exam is to show what she knows - she knows 96% of the syllabus, so that is her mark. It was on the back of the paper FGS. There are some teachers who love a power trip! [but lots who don't, before I get dumped on!!]

And she still knows enough to get 96%. Why so concerned about the mark?how is it a power trip? It is a nothing consequence aimed to wake the child up. As a GCSE marker has said on the thread already - scripts with ‘doodles’ get referred to team leaders/senior markers for review. Too much of a risk. If I meaningless penalay now stops that happening, that’s in the child’s interests.

cardibach · 07/07/2023 17:54

Conkersinautumn · 06/07/2023 19:40

That flies in the face of all of the positive mark exam methods im aware of. The teacher sounds petty and vindictive

It doesn’t, because she marked it positively and the child knows the actual mark. Then she took marks off for breaking a rule she was fully aware of.

NotOnYourNellies · 07/07/2023 18:02

Be upset at your daughter
She was told - end of
Shoulder it all on her
The apple hasn't fallen far from the tree has it

cardibach · 07/07/2023 18:06

WantToBeAMamma · 06/07/2023 21:54

I'm so happy to hear that there are others out there who can relate.

My daughter says that when she doodles in class it helps her focus and better absorb the material being taught. but I appreciate that not all teachers are able to accommodate this and may see it as inappropriate behaviour. I am very greatful for all the querky teachers who were able to see past this and turn a blind eye over the years and appreciate my daughter for all her other qualities.

Of course I believe in kids respecting their teachers/elders

Doodling in class in her own book brought in for the purpose or on scrap paper wouldn’t bother me. On exams though it risks issues and suggests a lack of care. Especially if she’s been told (and getting almost full marks doesn’t mean she must care. Following instructions in a formal situation is important).

cardibach · 07/07/2023 18:22

WantToBeAMamma · 07/07/2023 10:34

Of course I'm not out to undermine the teachers authority and always encourage my children to respect all school staff . I think any one who teaches in this day and age with the level of respect in classrooms are very brave and commendable. My main gripe is that there was no positive comment on the exam paper even though she achieved a high mark after much revision. I feel that besides the reprimand it could have been balanced out with some positivity, to encourage her to continue putting effort in when revising.

She did balance it out with positivity. She told her she scored 96% in the exam.

WantToBeAMamma · 07/07/2023 20:30

Letting her know that she scored 96% was a statement of fact. But didn't in any way share a positive feeling such as appreciation recognition or validation, in contrast to what she said about the drawing where she labelled it "graffiti" and was explicit in saying 'its not OK".

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