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AIBU - only one without a desk

233 replies

Nurse1980 · 05/07/2023 23:35

Hi,

I recently returned to work following an episode of sickness.

We all had our own desk in the office (including myself). I’ve come back, and a six month temporary member of staff is now at the desk that was mine.

So Im having to use a laptop and sit at a filing cabinet, as I’ve no desk. I’m also disadvantaged as our job is much easier with two screens (all desks have two screens).

I’ve brought it up with my manager and was told that she was working on it.

I’m not sure if I’m overreacting (been off with stress and PTSD) and just finished my phased return. So I’m more sensitive than normal perhaps?

OP posts:
Soilsister · 07/07/2023 12:03

Just adding my note that a Display Screen Equipment assessment (DSE) is a legal requirement (The Health and Safety (Display Screen Equipment) Regulations 1992)
It is a dreadful situation when they are trying to make a cabinet into your desk and is completely unacceptable I hope you get this sorted out soon, problems may not be obvious initially but they are allowing you to build up muscular skeletal problems for the future :(

bonzaitree · 07/07/2023 12:09

Nurse1980 · 07/07/2023 11:40

Hi, I’m in a union. I have arranged a phone call with my manager today, if I don’t get anywhere I’ll be speaking to my union.

Thank you.

Good for you OP. What an absolute joke. Surely a desk is a minimum expectation of a desk job!

HarrisJu · 07/07/2023 12:16

When I worked for the NHS we used to call it the No Hope Service in relation to working conditions (not patients I hasten to add).

LadyLapsang · 07/07/2023 12:17

Follow up the phone call with an email summarising the conversation, cc HR and send it separately to your home email and to your trade union rep. Request a full workstation assessment to be carried out urgently.

Keep a written record (at home) of everything that happens including dates and the names and job titles of those concerned.

TheLifeofMe · 07/07/2023 12:18

I would speak to HR as that is not a proper work station using a filing cabinet. How ridiculous! I would make it known you aren’t happy to your line manager and give her the option to sort it or you raise with HR. Take a photo of your work space and the other desks so you have proof.

LemonGelato · 07/07/2023 12:29

Somewhere on your intranet there will information about both DSE workstation assessments and Occupational health. Find it and email to request both. Copy in line manager. Be clear what the problem is - no monitor etc. Is chair a proper one?

A laptop long term is not good - it's a recipe for back and neck trouble. At the VERY least in short term whilst they sort it out properly, you should have a separate keyboard and mouse plugged into laptop on a riser (or even a cardboard box!) to get laptop screen to eye level.

Ginburee · 07/07/2023 12:41

OP, I had a breakdown last year and really went through the MH mill.

The person who bullied me and contributed has now left, work have been amazing at settling me back in.

You need to go above your manager as this is not in any way shape or form acceptable.

TopOfTheCliff · 07/07/2023 12:44

When I was still working for the NHS my colleague and I had an agreement to share a desk. She had a bad back and had a special chair which I also used but never adjusted it so it suited her. You need to be a bit more demanding and insist on a proper work station. Contact OH and HR and see what they suggest. You are not being difficult it’s perfectly reasonable to want a room allocating to you to work in. Make it their problem not yours!

Uokhon · 07/07/2023 12:45

I would tell them I’m working from home until a desk is set up, it’s a breach of health and safety to not have a correct height desk and chair.

BillyNotQuiteNoMates · 07/07/2023 12:52

You can go for a claim for constructive dismissal, speak to your union

nirthernmoneky · 07/07/2023 12:53

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KeyWorker · 07/07/2023 12:59

Sorry I’ve not read the full thread but can you telephone your trusts occ health department? In our trust you can self refer. They are usually quite big on DSE and sitting/ working correctly to protect your back ect.

nirthernmoneky · 07/07/2023 13:27

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Silverfoxette · 07/07/2023 13:28

this happens to me a lot where I work because I’m PT and do 2 days at home and 2 days in the office. I could come in some days and there would literally be nowhere to sit. I couldn’t fathom why my manager wanted me coming in when I could have easily worked at home and actually get more done without all the distractions. Luckily we moved to a bigger office so it shouldn’t happen again (hopefully) it’s not right and I completely get how it makes you feel.
Manager also kept organising staff lunches for days when I was working at home so that I’d be able to cover phones. I felt like a spare or something.

ScribblingPixie · 07/07/2023 13:32

Mumsnet at its best. Good luck, Nurse 1980.

jenandberry21 · 07/07/2023 13:35

What an appalling way to welcome you back! You can't work without a desk. It's a basic requirement they're not providing you with.

Tiredhotmess · 07/07/2023 13:45

I was not at all surprised when you said you work for the NHS! This sounds typical of the complete disregard they have for their employees who are just expected to put up and shut up! If you are working from a laptop anyway is it not possible to do this from home? I would definitely be raising this with HR and Occupational Health, as this is completely unacceptable and is a form of discrimination. Good luck.

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Autumntree · 07/07/2023 13:59

OP you are absolutely NOT over-reacting. I was in your situation after I returned from maternity leave. After trying to claim back what belonged to me for many months to no avail, I ended up leaving the company and luckily joining a better one which pays better too. Still remember how distressed I was...

DinkyDaffodil · 07/07/2023 14:14

wow OP what a sh1tty thing to happen - it's almost as if they want you to leave - no-one should have to work in such circumstances - how long is the temp there for - is she/he lined up for your job ?
go to the union - totally unacceptable

Emotionalsupportviper · 07/07/2023 14:17

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 07/07/2023 09:43

I'm public sector. We've been hot-desking for about 15 years. All staff are trained on DSE - either via video, or with a trainer coming in to see individuals. All desks have moveable monitors, vertical and normal mice, office chairs with lots of flexibility and footrests. We also have a bank of about 9 standing desks. Everyone has a locker too for their stuff. Works ok!

This isn't "hot desking"

If you read what OP has said, she is the only one without a desk. When she came in early to take a desk, she was told to give it to the temp.

Lavenderflower · 07/07/2023 14:36

I am not surprised to hear you work for NHS....

12RedRoses · 07/07/2023 14:38

Good luck. I’m sure someone saw this thread or thought shit, we can’t make someone bent over a filing cabinet as that’s a work based injury lawsuit waiting to happen.

elizaagain · 07/07/2023 14:49

Definitely seconding the comment re keeping a written record of everything - at home! One of the ways the public sector (at least) "plays things" is deliberately losing anything written that might be helpful to the employee concerned. I've found they lost something of mine before now - but I'd already anticipated they would "lose" it and made a copy in advance for when they did so. The original never did show up. "Deliberate inefficiency" is one of the weapons that the public sector at least employs (though I expect that one is prevalent too in the private sector).

sillysmiles · 07/07/2023 15:06

Nurse1980 · 06/07/2023 00:02

It wouldn’t be so bad if everyone was hot desking. But to be the only one makes me feel rubbish.

Talk to HR.
Mention how you feel that your manager is highlighting your medical absence and not accommodating your return. Mention feeling removed and isolated from the team
Talk about the inability to appropriately do your job, due to lack of resources - desk, chair, second screen.
Ask HR about ergonomic assessment.

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