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Job options for ex-doctors?

149 replies

Gottogetaplan · 04/07/2023 01:23

Have name changed to post. I have resigned as a doctor and would welcome any ideas for a middle aged ex-doctor that is a few years from retirement.

OP posts:
britnay · 04/07/2023 15:18

What sort of minimum salary do you need?

Air ambulance?
Phlebotomist?
Event first aider?
First aid trainer?

Caramellois · 04/07/2023 15:24

Some of these suggestions are a bit bizarre like the rural GP. A relative is thinking of working in government in public health which would give him regular hours though for less money than the insane doctors' hours he has seen during his training. He has done some public health contracts already. A bit of a working knowledge of statistics would be a help.

UnsureHmm · 04/07/2023 15:26

I used to work at the MHRA, if you go on civil service jobs you can find them. There was lots of ex doctors in senior positions!

You can then wfh part time too!

Lollygaggle · 04/07/2023 15:31

If you have a military base nearby there is a lot to say for locuming in the military . No chance of deployment , protected time , mostly fit and compliant population .
If non clinical perhaps think coroners officer , interesting but there is an emotional component
medical/scientific writing
medical devices sales
pharmaceutical sales
peer reviewer for CQC/HIW
practice advisor for local health authority

However I would absolutely second going to do voluntary work in medicine abroad, even for a couple of weeks , mercy ships or similar. It really resets you and makes you realise you are privileged to have skills that can help so many.

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 04/07/2023 15:41

For Public Health, you don't actually need to be a doctor but you probably do need to have the relevant higher qualifications for the specialty (MSc or membership).

Backtoreality1 · 04/07/2023 15:43

House Parent in a boarding school? You get accomodation, and having someone medically trained would be a real boon for the schools.

Sunisshiningweatherissweet1 · 04/07/2023 15:49

My partner is a GP and works for an online company doing online consultations. He's earning £85 an hour and does 4 consultations per hour. He finds it good as he works from home and submits a rota each month.

AnnaMagnani · 04/07/2023 16:13

At risk of sounding like a broken record, to do online GP consultations you need to be a fully qualified GP.

Same for working for the military who probably have v little need for a not fully qualified gen med doctor.

Annoyingly I found the range of options for GPs was vast, the range for someone practising a niche area of medicine very very much less.

Sunisshiningweatherissweet1 · 04/07/2023 16:20

@AnnaMagnani I apologise, I missed the post where the OP stated her speciality was general medicine.

mpsw · 04/07/2023 16:33

AnnaMagnani · 04/07/2023 16:13

At risk of sounding like a broken record, to do online GP consultations you need to be a fully qualified GP.

Same for working for the military who probably have v little need for a not fully qualified gen med doctor.

Annoyingly I found the range of options for GPs was vast, the range for someone practising a niche area of medicine very very much less.

I don't think the military use civilian locums much if at all (but with the never-ending cuts, I'm a bit wary of saying "never" as I might have missed a change. But it always used to be "never"

But if they do, then they will need MRCGP as a minimum. Most military GPs have that, because they gain it in the early stages of their career, and have some form of supervision until then (they have GP trainers in a system that's parallel to the NHS route). As locums (who will be retained and deployed by DPHS centrally) may need to work independently, they will need the higher level qualification.

I'm also not sure if they use reservists for that function.

Which is al a bit of a wordy way of saying that's unlikely to be an avenue for someone with no GP qualifications or previous experience/training.

OTOH, depending on age, joining the TA might in itself be interesting, and can provide some income. Which might be useful if you're after a portfolio career (and the chance to network)

mpsw · 04/07/2023 17:03

Lollygaggle · 04/07/2023 16:53

Actually a large amount of military medicine is now done by civilians and locums eg http://www.militarymedicalpersonnel.com/Jobs/Results.aspx

Oh, I know they've civilianised a lot. And turned it purple.

I hadn't realised civilianisation extended into primary health care (RMO/GP) locums though.

And if you look at those job ads nearly all require the higher speciality qualifications of the type that OP has not got. Though I did spot one SHO training post (experience in rehabilitation, sports and exercise medicine or rheumatology an advantage)

All the GP ones require the person to be on the GP register with no restrictions, and no locums currently advertised

Lollygaggle · 04/07/2023 17:32

All of those jobs are locum jobs , if you look at the ads. There are constantly new jobs advertised , some even abroad (Germany,Cyprus, Falklands etc ).

AnnaMagnani · 04/07/2023 17:37

They may well be locum jobs but they are all asking for fully qualified GPs or Consultants which the OP is not.

mpsw · 04/07/2023 17:44

Lollygaggle · 04/07/2023 17:32

All of those jobs are locum jobs , if you look at the ads. There are constantly new jobs advertised , some even abroad (Germany,Cyprus, Falklands etc ).

Misread the end dates initially, thinking the meant closing dates for applications, which was plausible for most ads, so stopped really looking. So sorry!

But having looked again, the GP ads for the larger medical centres and all require full GP registration (and there are only a few other doctor ads, all of which require the doctor to be on the relevant specialist register, and OP is on none, except a 4 month SHO post suitable for a training rotation (in specialties that don't match OP's)

So unless wishing to retrain, military locum posts don't look like a good match.

But what I said earlier about the TA would work - for OP or anyone who's considering a career change (esp it it's a move to a portfolio careeer). It might match previous training/experience, or you could plunge in to something new.

Lollygaggle · 04/07/2023 17:52

Agree about ta except , I think, op is in their 50s and I know I would not pass a BFT anymore even before long covid and , I think, 43 is upper limit to join reservists and 30s for TA.

SnackSizeRaisin · 04/07/2023 18:25

A few years off retirement, not near retirement. Why bother putting more details when people don't read it properly anyway

Lollygaggle · 04/07/2023 18:46

OP will be part of NHS 2015 pension scheme as well as , possibly 1995 scheme. Although there is a consultation going on at the moment which will probably change things , the retirement age for the 1995 part of scheme is 60 and for the 2015 part of the scheme is at least 67. You can ,possibly , take a 1995 pension at 55 but there is quite a financial penalty to this.
OP describes themselves as middle aged so 50 ish seems a good guess.

Gottogetaplan · 04/07/2023 18:57

I am in my late 50s. NHS pension allows me to retire at 67. I have contacted some locum agencies but promised return phone calls not materialised...I suspect burnout may cause a problem and they don't know my age yet. I know someone who had similar who is in IT.

OP posts:
theDudesmummy · 04/07/2023 19:02

AFAIK There is only no penalty to taking 1995 pension at 55 if you had MHO status (I did and was so very lucky!).

Gottogetaplan · 04/07/2023 19:11

Pension situation is because joined late as single parent and money tight. Stupid I know but childcare was crippling me financially.

OP posts:
AnnaMagnani · 04/07/2023 19:32

Late 50s?

Get yourself a nice job as a palliative staff grade, maybe try to do a bit of tribunal stuff on the side or benefits medical assessor and wait for retirement.

Exchange230316 · 06/07/2023 14:19

Place marking- I am fed up too
just wondering how long I have to work before I have enough to draw at pension age will nhs pension be protected? I was thinking to stick it out until 50 then go.
I would move into pharmaceuticals.

Sparklybutold · 06/07/2023 14:43

I left medicine early in my career. Currently retraining as a psychotherapist and currently working as a Therapeutic Activities Coordinator - as jobs go, it's a pretty good job and I enjoy it. I work part time and choose my hours. I have a lot of autonomy, connect with patients, work with a range of HCP to deliver person centered holistic care. The work is actually therapeutic for me! Last week I went strawberry picking, swimming, horse riding and played tennis where I work... Yeah... It's not a bad job 😎

I'm also undergoing management training so likely ill combine both therapeutic and management further down the line.

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