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Female character names in fiction - unrealistic

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ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 03/07/2023 10:02

I just finished a book that was quite enjoyable chick lit, I don't read lots of these but my friend passes a few on and I pick out what I think look the best among them and mix in with other reads.

My gripe is about character names. They are invariably cutesy pie names. For example the female characters (all early 30s) were called Roxy, Poppy, Clemmie, Ruby and Daisy. These, however, were the most popular names for baby girls at the time the characters would have been born:

SARAH
LAURA
GEMMA
EMMA
REBECCA
CLAIRE
VICTORIA
SAMANTHA
RACHEL
AMY

(to be fair there was a Rachel in the book, but she was a side character).

By contrast the older females (ranging from 48 to 60) were Sylvia, Joan and Gloria. These are my grandma's generation, not born between 1959 and 1971.

So, AIBU about this?

OP posts:
HollaHolla · 03/07/2023 16:15

WriteO · 03/07/2023 16:05

I'm an author and in every genre you need to hit certain beats and tropes to be successful.

I have a Christmas cozy mystery series, can you guess my female characters name?

Holly, Ivy or Noelle

FuzzyPuffling · 03/07/2023 16:21

WriteO · 03/07/2023 16:05

I'm an author and in every genre you need to hit certain beats and tropes to be successful.

I have a Christmas cozy mystery series, can you guess my female characters name?

Miss Elle Toe

veganmayo · 03/07/2023 16:33

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 03/07/2023 14:13

I'm strangely invested in this now and have spent my lunch hour researching (very superficially) character names and genres.

I've just looked at the other names used by the same author in other books, these include Izzy, Twilight, Lola, Holly and Ivy (in a Christmas book, of course!)

Different authors have used Daisy again - she's the good character and her sister is called Anne but she's not so nice - amongst others I found another Ruby, Melody, Tori and Meadow.

On to some of these more raunchy books with "alpha male" characters and the names are Chase, Flynn, Vance, Holt, and, rather incongruously, one called Ian.

I know someone who called her two boys Steven and David and was told she had chosen boring names.

Maybe this would be better on the books board!!!

I'm mid-30s and know more than one person around my age with every 'cutesie' female name you've mentioned (and I am one of them, in fact), except Meadow and Twilight. I don't think they are at all unusual for people that age. Obviously not everybody is named from the top 10?!

The male names are all very American. But aren't names/characters designed to stick with you and help them not blend into the story/each other like they might if they had all the same names as every other book or movie or even friendship group you've ever known?

Similarly, books and movies don't tend to have more than one character with the same name despite this being v common in real life. But it makes sense in this context as after all the point of a name is to tell people apart from one another.

I don't think I want the main character of every book to be called Emma just because that was popular when she was born. I find it far more annoying how these characters tend to have totally unrealistic personality traits assigned to them, in general.

WriteO · 03/07/2023 16:33

"Miss Elle Toe" haha I absolutely love this, so much so I might name a character it.

@HollaHolla got it in one. She's called Holly. Readers find it familiar, comforting and easy.

YouHaveAnArse · 03/07/2023 16:47

Anyotherdude · 03/07/2023 13:51

Age and gender accuracy aside, my pet hate is the ridiculous, supposedly “British” name that Dan Brown chose for his villain in The Da Vinci Code - Sir Leigh Teabing, fgs! Not an ancient surname, and an unlikely first name, too, for a member of the aristocracy of the UK… spoilt the whole series for me!
I feel your pain, OP. It’s like an author naming a Victorian Englishwoman Tracey!

For some reason Americans think that Nigel is still a really popular name in the UK.

Bennyjoon · 03/07/2023 16:49

I know what you mean OP. Also add in stupid abbreviations for names - not that I can think of any off the top of my head!!

FuzzyPuffling · 03/07/2023 17:01

WriteO · 03/07/2023 16:33

"Miss Elle Toe" haha I absolutely love this, so much so I might name a character it.

@HollaHolla got it in one. She's called Holly. Readers find it familiar, comforting and easy.

You have my permission! 😁😁

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 03/07/2023 17:12

Bennyjoon · 03/07/2023 16:49

I know what you mean OP. Also add in stupid abbreviations for names - not that I can think of any off the top of my head!!

There was a character in a book once called Izzy, but that was further mangled to Iz-Wiz. It was crazy!

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 03/07/2023 17:20

WriteO · 03/07/2023 16:33

"Miss Elle Toe" haha I absolutely love this, so much so I might name a character it.

@HollaHolla got it in one. She's called Holly. Readers find it familiar, comforting and easy.

I was going to suggest Carol.

RuthW · 03/07/2023 17:44

I don't agree. My dd is approaching 30 and those names listed were people I went to school with and I'm 55. Dd went to school with Daisy, Emily, Poppy, Libby, Holly etc.

UnwaxedLemon · 03/07/2023 17:57

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 03/07/2023 14:44

What, the 10 most popular or the chick-lit names?

The chicklit names. I only know one other my age, and didn't know any others for ages, but it's popular in girls who are now ages 10-20 I'd say.

MintyCedric · 03/07/2023 18:02

The fact that it’s chick lit would probably explain that to some extent.

I primarily read crime fiction and also write it…the first thing I do when trying to think of a character name is consult the ‘most popular’ list from the period they were born to avoid jarring issues like these.

That said there are always some quirky names or incongruous ones. My own isn’t ragingly unusual but it’s not overly common either in my age group (late 40s). My mum picked it thinking it was modern and when the vicar came round about my christening he commented that it was ‘a lovely old-fashioned name’ so…🤷🏼‍♀️

musixa · 03/07/2023 18:13

Try reading thrillers rather than chic lit. All the heroines are called Kate or Alice Wink

ReadtheReviews · 03/07/2023 18:21

I agree, a stupid name can blow apart the suspension of disbelief for me. And it's one of the things I stutter over whenever I write my own.

rubydoobydoo · 03/07/2023 19:13

I know two cats and person called Daisy - person-Daisy is late 20s. I also know a Poppy around the same age.

AtomicBlondeRose · 03/07/2023 19:18

In children’s books they often have grandmothers who are ancient wizened tiny women called Elsie or Doris, who knit and sit in an armchair all day.

I mean, that’s what the grandmothers of my generation (40-somethings) are like if they’re still around. Primary school children have grandmas called Helen who drive Minis and wear Skechers and slim cut cropped jeans.

Fairislefandango · 03/07/2023 19:28

My gripe is about character names. They are invariably cutesy pie names. For example the female characters (all early 30s) were called Roxy, Poppy, Clemmie, Ruby and Daisy. These, however, were the most popular names for baby girls at the time the characters would have been born:

YABVU. There are people in real life with uncommon names, so why wouldn't people in fiction have uncommon names?! Besides... it's fiction. People in fiction are often uncommon in lots of ways, otherwise they'd be bloody boring to read about! I'm a teacher in a girls' school and teach loads of girls whose names were not typical for the year they are born. Also YABU not to expect chick lit to involve cutesy names. It's chick lit.

DrCoconut · 03/07/2023 19:36

I read a book set in Regency England and the names really jarred. No Elizabeths or Charlottes, no Williams or Edwards. Can't remember the exact names but think of things like Ryan and Belinda. Not saying those names were never used historically (I don't know) but old records, parish registers etc suggest the Jane Austen type names were indeed typical.

WriteO · 03/07/2023 21:03

Carol is already in there 🤣

Miss Elle is definitely making an appearance though, she sounds like a primary school teacher.

AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 03/07/2023 21:37

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 03/07/2023 17:12

There was a character in a book once called Izzy, but that was further mangled to Iz-Wiz. It was crazy!

I know an Izzy who sometimes goes by Whizzy...

A lad at school had a nickname of a popular food brand because he liked their food....

Nicknames are often dumb

StellaF · 03/07/2023 21:46

Ruth Rendell always gave her characters weird, made up names that I’d never heard of before.

mum2jakie · 03/07/2023 21:56

Try the darkgreener website if you want to trace popularity of particular names at particular times. I could lose hours on that site:

names.darkgreener.com/

Daffodilwoman · 26/08/2023 07:42

I also see a lot of teenage boys called Jack in fiction. Jack is usually the working class hero as it were.

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