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Will my 16 year old be taxed?

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tiredmama23 · 01/07/2023 10:53

Sorry I'm shamelessly posting for traffic. I've googled but I'm still not clear on the answer to this.

My DD (16 - turns 17 in September) has just started a job in a bar / restaurant. She is doing this part time as she's going to college to do A Levels in September and so will be picking up shifts around this, but for now she is more available as it's the summer break.

She did a 3 hour trial there earlier this week and they took her on following that. She worked 3 hours yesterday and has been asked to work 5 hours today and 6 hours tomorrow. The manager told her she will be paid next Sunday for the shifts worked this week. She has provided bank details and NI number etc.

We are trying to work out what she will be owed next week. The manager said it was minimum wage so for her age according to Google that appears to be £5.28, so if we include the trial shift she worked we've calculated 17 hours worked, meaning she's owed about £89. If it doesn't include payment for the trial shift she's owed 14 hours so around £73. My questions are:

  1. Should she expect to be paid for the trial shift? She thinks not, but I think she should as she actually worked during that time (obviously under supervision), she was serving customers etc,
  1. Will she be taxed and/or NI deductions in such a small amount? If so how much can she expect to have deducted?

Thanks for any comments.

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Mummyratbag · 01/07/2023 10:58

She shouldn't be taxed! You need to earn a lot more than that before you pay either tax or NI.

Mummyratbag · 01/07/2023 10:58

Some places pay for the trial shift some don't.

tiredmama23 · 01/07/2023 11:01

Mummyratbag · 01/07/2023 10:58

She shouldn't be taxed! You need to earn a lot more than that before you pay either tax or NI.

Thank you - I thought this would be the case but my partner seemed to think she'd have some deductions taken off.

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Amboseli · 01/07/2023 11:01

Has she looked at Compass for hospitality work? They pay closer to £10ph even for 16 year olds.

CheshireCats · 01/07/2023 11:02

My 2 DC were not paid for for trial shifts

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 01/07/2023 11:03

She won't have to pay national insurance until she earns over £533 a month

she won't be taxed until she has earned over £12570 in that financial year.

the trial shift no one can answer apart from her employer.

don't forget she will hopefully get a share of the tips too.

AmITooOldToDoThis · 01/07/2023 11:06

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 01/07/2023 11:03

She won't have to pay national insurance until she earns over £533 a month

she won't be taxed until she has earned over £12570 in that financial year.

the trial shift no one can answer apart from her employer.

don't forget she will hopefully get a share of the tips too.

The tax is calculated weekly or monthly. You don’t only start paying tax after £12570.

Earn more than £241.73 in a week or £1047.50 in an month and tax will be deducted. At the end of the tax year you can claim back anything overpaid (ie if you didn’t earn £12570+ in a year).

TidalShore · 01/07/2023 11:06

It depends what tax code they use and what HMRC in their wisdom calculate the estimated annual pay to be. She might possibly get something taken off because of this, but if she does and doesn't end up going over the personal allowance she will get it back. Given the set up I think it unlikely she would earn over the tax threshold so most likely she will get the full thing.

As for the trial shift - no one can tell you that but the employer.

AmITooOldToDoThis · 01/07/2023 11:07

NI can be managed weekly as well but can’t be claimed back.

tiredmama23 · 01/07/2023 13:21

Thanks everyone, looks like she won't need to worry about tax and NI just yet!

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