AIBU to tell you that First Direct closed bank account of gender critical blogger

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https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1673371351942307840

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1673371351942307840.html

Who's next? What other beliefs are no longer allowed to partake in society?

It's not just about Ferage, infact he may be riding on the cost tails of others and a red herring.

There are three threads, one linked already and another in AIBU, with other various news sources for those interested.

The first case was reported a few days before Ferage it was the case of Barclays making a payout after activists contacted them requesting an account be closed,p. The same activists were sending death and rape threats to the man and his family, which JK Rowling and others also experienced.

I was making an educated guess based on understanding the type of reasons banks actually do close accounts and his (and the others involved) casual relationship with the truth and their ability to present information in a way that will evoke a specific reaction in their. audience.

Take wings, for example, his previous musings on all things relating to women were considered by many (male and female alike) to be hate filled misogynistic rants. His attitude towards the gay community similarly vitriolic. Fast forward a couple of years and he began to present himself as someone with the interests of women at his heart to wade into the gender debate and spill vitriol on transgender people. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure the three word mantra "cocks jin frocks" originated on his site.

It was common to laugh at AGPs prior to 2015, I would find it odd that anyone over 25 never cracked a smile at a transvestite joke back in the day.

Uhm "Cocks in Frocks" is derived from a quote in Priscilla the Queen of the desert.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=awGGLFlIZ5s

What law do you think a business is breaking by refusing to do business with Farage? As many people have stated, banks do not like doing business with politically exposed persons, it’s expensive for them as they have to do a lot of extra checks, and it increases their risk profile. They are free to close your account at any time and do not have to give you a reason - in fact in some cases they cannot legally disclose the reason.

@Chupachucks
Farage himself owned up to receiving 2 separate amounts, both under £5k from Russia for either a speech or advice. It was in yesterday's DM but I can't confirm how long ago those payments were made. It did say but I didn't make a note of it.

I guess Yorkshire Building Society either doesn't hold itself to the same standards or they don't understand that they have just illegally discriminated against someone for holding a legally protected belief under the Equality Act.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4838904-yorkshire-building-society-closing-accounts-down-on-people-with-views-that-dont-agree-with-their-policy?page=7&reply=127292862

Here is the other AIBU thread, the Sex and gender thread along with this one have many sources.

Are you talking about Farage, the guy from Wings of Scotland or the Reverend?

Thanks for that. I believe it was brought into mainstream usage by Wangs then. Should have realised it wasn't original. 😂

Or the guys from Triggernometry?

Both banks mentioned on this thread have said that they absolutely do not close banks based on personal beliefs.

Why are people blindly believing these dregs saying their accounts have been closed because they politely asked why there were rainbow flags in branches?

It makes me think of the people posting in community fb groups about they've been unfairly struck off by their GP or dentist, just because they (insert innocent behaviour here).

Meanwhile, the staff say nothing but have excellent reasons for seeing you on your way.

So here they are, whining about closed bank accounts just because...

But whipping up hatred and division amongst the gullible as they do it.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/hospital-says-patient-could-not-26506744

Umbridge NHS staff who say "You must not tell lies"?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michigan-house-passes-bill-that-could-make-using-wrong-pronouns-a-felony-fineable-up-to-10000/ar-AA1dgjCB

I guess rape victims can always try to catch out NHS staff for abusing them as the above article shows, later on when Labour comes into power and brings in legislation like this, by suddenly becoming a man and waiting for the slip of the tounge - revenge and compensation for the rape victim NHS staff abused.

Why the fuck are you quoting me when you post these links?

Nothing to do with what I said. You have no idea what my views are on any topic.

Sorry did you miss the report that Barclays paid off a Christian group whose account they closed due to being pressurised by an LGBT group?

The laws that protect them, protect all of us. That's the point.

People are extremely naive to be dismissing this stuff. But people are naive, I guess 🤷‍♀️. Wait til it happens to them and they learn the hard way.

One simple step would be to require banks to provide a reason for closing an account - which they haven't done in these cases (or that's my understanding).

If they're investigating potentially criminal financial activity in the account, then they can say so. Reasons to do with 'values' are not appropriate. People cannot function without bank accounts, it's not ethical for banks to hold this kind of power over whether views are 'acceptable' or not.

https://christianconcern.com/news/christian-charity-paid-over-20000-compensation-for-bank-account-closures/

They were sending him and his family rape and death threats.

Wings over Scotland has located a trans activist bank staff member, on his Twitter account, he believes was involved in cancelling his bank account.

@FedgeHund if a bank gets it wrong, there's nothing wrong with having a provision for compensation.

Mind you, the sooner they make all so called conversion therapy illegal, the better - and then this organisation would be engaged in illegal activities. All the evidence shows that conversion therapy is psychologically damaging - even when people engage in it willingly. You haven't picked the best flavour of victim here.

No, I know that Barclays paid £20k settlement to avoid the far larger cost of going to court. It denied discrimination and asserted that it had a legal right to close any account with appropriate notice. They didn't apologise to Core Issues Trust (chief executive describes himself as ex-gay, huge widespread suspicion of conversion therapy) or reinstate their account.

They also sued Transport of London who removed their posters saying 'Not Gay. Post Gay. Ex Gay and Proud. Get over it!' And failed of course. So they are abhorrent, litigious and very prickly about being told they're wrong.

To @AlisonDonut

"If they're investigating potentially criminal financial activity in the account, then they can say so."

Wouldn't that be against data protection and cast suspicion on individuals and companies who are ultimately innocent? Don't you think anyone whose bank account was closed for this reason would be jumping up and down in the press too?

They don't want to get into it and they don't have to give a reason. Everyone who takes out a bank account knows that and signs to agree to it. If you don't like it, put your money elsewhere.

The point is, that it doesn't matter what flavour of victim it is.

I cannot believe some people are so willing to just hand over their rights and just shrug their shoulders, when the same situation could easily happen to them.

Baffling.

People want to bring in a new ideology, a world view others disagree with, they want to outlaw parents, NHS staff and religious people from chatting to, praying with children and vulnerable adults with autism for instance.

Children who have been told that they are a soul trapped in in the wrong body, that they can change sex, that after a mastectomy their breasts will grow back with hormones like a males do, if they change their mind.

A man who isn't on board with this new ideology, deserved rape and death threats along with his bank account being removed ? 🤔

Even if he wants to pray with someone gay and both consent, why is the harm that gay man does to himself worse than the harm being done to a gay man given a penis inversion and castration with consent given to the NHS?