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Teachers strike... what will actually happen in end?!

382 replies

SpringPop · 28/06/2023 18:55

My school is striking again next week with others that have teachers from the particular union.

All that is happening is parents are getting massively angry. Kids are missing out. I've used so much holiday on strike days as I have multiple children. I know my anger should not be directed to school but exactly where can I direct it to? I'm pretty sure my MP wouldn't care. He's completely useless.

The government don't seem to care.

I personally think something needs to change in that profession and funding in my area is shocking! It's probably not attracting the best people to the profession and certainly is driving people away.

However, am I right in thinking rishi and co don't care?! Teachers could do 5, 10, 100 days and it seems they won't budge right?

Parents don't seem to care or get angry enough, short of tweeting about it or writing to MP. It isn't really enough to get this resolved.

How do you think this situation will end?

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veryfluffyfluff · 28/06/2023 18:57

It will just carry on and on and on until there are no teachers left

Saywhatevernow · 28/06/2023 19:14

Children will be taught online via Oak Academy etc. It will be autonomous and there will be no in person teachers as they leave.

veryfluffyfluff · 28/06/2023 19:18

Saywhatevernow · 28/06/2023 19:14

Children will be taught online via Oak Academy etc. It will be autonomous and there will be no in person teachers as they leave.

They'll get AI to do it and it will be rubbish and we'll all slowly evolve to be stupid

Holidaynovice · 28/06/2023 19:19

It will rumble on until the next election and a change of government.

RudsyFarmer · 28/06/2023 19:21

I think AI will probably take over some of the work to be fair.

ichundich · 28/06/2023 19:22

I don't know the answer, but agree that it needs to be resolved. It seems like the government and unions aren't even trying to negotiate anymore.

ichundich · 28/06/2023 19:23

Saywhatevernow · 28/06/2023 19:14

Children will be taught online via Oak Academy etc. It will be autonomous and there will be no in person teachers as they leave.

Not likely.

LadyLardy · 28/06/2023 19:24

I agree that Rishi and co don't care. They send their children to private school and can afford to pay for private tuition if necessary.

But most parents/children need teachers. And they need the state education system to be properly funded and work correctly. So they should be loudly proclaiming to their MPs that unless they resolve the situation in education - which is at breaking point - they won't be getting any more votes.

Parents will care if schools end up going to a '3 day week'. Or if pupils end up with only half the curriculum being taught. Or children end up at home with one teacher on TEAMS teaching online - and not marking anything, because they are suddenly teaching the whole year group at once, rather than just one class.

It's not going away.

SunnyEgg · 28/06/2023 19:26

They likely won’t budge and GE will happen.

eatdrinkandbemerry · 28/06/2023 19:28

Only a General Election will make a change but then will it be for the better 🤔nobody knows 🤷‍♀️.

Patric · 28/06/2023 19:32

General election next year or two so hopefully that will help- if they vote out the rich and corrupt tories!

kirinm · 28/06/2023 19:36

There's only one side unwilling to listen and it isn't the unions.

Sunak made clear earlier this week that the government will ignore independent reviews on salaries so the strikes will go on. It's awful for everyone.

Gytgyt · 28/06/2023 19:40

How much more money are teachers wanting? God I'm drawing September I think they will be more strikes ahead.

I don't begrudge any strikes but the la k of short notice.... I bet my boss is fed up of me asking t9 change shifts at last minute. DS has a inset day too so 3 days off school.

Yogacameltoe · 28/06/2023 19:40

The teachers we know had left but found themselves struggling to find work. They ended up going back to teaching. I know 3 secondary teachers and 2 primary teachers who left and returned

I'm a HLTA so it's been very interesting to watch! 😊

Qilin · 28/06/2023 19:43

Gytgyt · 28/06/2023 19:40

How much more money are teachers wanting? God I'm drawing September I think they will be more strikes ahead.

I don't begrudge any strikes but the la k of short notice.... I bet my boss is fed up of me asking t9 change shifts at last minute. DS has a inset day too so 3 days off school.

The amount isn't the whole issue. It's the funding for it too.

Gytgyt · 28/06/2023 19:44

@Qilin yes I know I just wondered. I've googled it now out of interest.

Saywhatevernow · 28/06/2023 19:45

ichundich · 28/06/2023 19:23

Not likely.

It’s already happening in some schools where even collapsing the classes isn’t enough. So yeah, probably. Hence the drive to a “universal, online” state run curriculum.

OwlBabiesAreCute · 28/06/2023 19:47

I am an NEU rep. The strike is about making sure the money that comes to teachers is from a central pot not from each of your children's schools, which are already struggling from previous pay rises / pensions, not to mention the cost of living hikes and the massively increased energy prices.

I would like to say it will end with Gillian Keegan sitting down with the unions to negotiate but she hasn't bothered yet...

And it is definitely one sided - the unions have been saying for ages that they want to negotiate. The government (THIS government) won't.

BrutusMcDogface · 28/06/2023 19:47

How utterly depressing 😔

WonderingWanda · 28/06/2023 19:49

It's OK, Gillian sent us all an email today so we can subscribe to her updates...that'll fix it!!

Also the government are recruiting teachers abroad rather than retaining their own trained teachers.

StarmanBobby · 28/06/2023 19:50

We'll vote the Tories out because not only are they destroying our health service but they're now destroying our kids education.

They overplayed their hand. Many of us can afford private care, or have health insurance via work, but very few ordinary, even MC professionals can afford to private school these days.
There aren't viable alternatives for mostpeopl- we NEED a good education system. It benefits us as individuals and families as well as for the whole society.

They don't ave enough rich voters to get them through next time

ichundich · 28/06/2023 19:50

Saywhatevernow · 28/06/2023 19:45

It’s already happening in some schools where even collapsing the classes isn’t enough. So yeah, probably. Hence the drive to a “universal, online” state run curriculum.

Which schools, and does it happen there regularly / weekly and not due to particular circumstances, e.g. students who can't be taught in a classroom? Even when I was young we sometimes had no teacher due to illness and were sat in front of a programme.

ichundich · 28/06/2023 19:52

StarmanBobby · 28/06/2023 19:50

We'll vote the Tories out because not only are they destroying our health service but they're now destroying our kids education.

They overplayed their hand. Many of us can afford private care, or have health insurance via work, but very few ordinary, even MC professionals can afford to private school these days.
There aren't viable alternatives for mostpeopl- we NEED a good education system. It benefits us as individuals and families as well as for the whole society.

They don't ave enough rich voters to get them through next time

If only rich people voted Tory, they wouldn't be in power now. Labour need to change so they appeal to the masses.

BookLover7777 · 28/06/2023 19:54

ichundich · 28/06/2023 19:22

I don't know the answer, but agree that it needs to be resolved. It seems like the government and unions aren't even trying to negotiate anymore.

That's not correct. The unions have repeatedly asked Gillian Keegan to get round the table again but she's refused. The last time she sat down with them was in APRIL. She has the latest recommendation from the Independent Pay Review Board but is refusing to publish the report because it apparently suggests a 6.5% increase in line with inflation. Bear in mind that's for the coming school year – teachers didn't receive anything last year because the Govt won't agree a figure. There are four weeks until the end of term and at this rate the strikes will be carrying on come Sept.

ilovesooty · 28/06/2023 19:59

BookLover7777 · 28/06/2023 19:54

That's not correct. The unions have repeatedly asked Gillian Keegan to get round the table again but she's refused. The last time she sat down with them was in APRIL. She has the latest recommendation from the Independent Pay Review Board but is refusing to publish the report because it apparently suggests a 6.5% increase in line with inflation. Bear in mind that's for the coming school year – teachers didn't receive anything last year because the Govt won't agree a figure. There are four weeks until the end of term and at this rate the strikes will be carrying on come Sept.

And Sunak has made it quite clear that he's prepared to ignore any recommendations from the review body.