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AIBU?

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People who 'work' at cafe tables

339 replies

BeagleMum1 · 28/06/2023 10:04

Why do cafe's allow this? I'm sitting in a cafe and over half the tables are being sat at, by a single person on laptop, 'working'. These tables could seat up to 4 people. Some have bought a cafe drink but others are just sitting there without a drink or food.

They are table blocking and at busier times, will prevent other customers who might buy more drinks / food from getting a seat. AIBU?

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LakieLady · 29/06/2023 14:54

KimberleyClark · 29/06/2023 12:09

Most public libraries are Hubs nowadays, surely they'd be better places to work than cafes.

Week before last, I arranged to meet a client in a library to do their PIP form.

Unfortunately, the library had some event for small children going on, and they were having some sort of singsong.

We decamped to a cafe where it was considerably quieter.

BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 15:07

SmartHome · 29/06/2023 14:50

I find it incredibe how the 'work' people can be so confident that other people can't work in a public place. They literally cannot conceive that some people have much better concentration skills and/or better computer skills and have a very different lifestyle from people that can only chit chat in a cafe. It's actually mind-blowing that such anchronistic and inflexible rigid thinkers still exist.

I can work effectively literally anywhere. I have a home office and a wework type place in London but I am just as happy in a cafe, on a plane, in a waiting room etc.

Good for you! I'm imagining you teleporting to various locations with your laptop, business as usual. Unwavering concentration. 🏅

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SmartHome · 29/06/2023 15:14

Impressed you can even imagine it! It certainly makes for a good work-life balance and I enjoy not being stuck in an office all day.i also relaly enjoy my job, and the money it brings, so am happy to work flexibly and outside of the old-fashioned 9-5.

BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 15:18

TheWalrusdidbeseech · 29/06/2023 14:33

Maybe only manual labour counts as work for her.

"vocational" manual labour thank you 😂

Oh the smugness!

The hard working cafe workers are doing manual work, Smuggy McSmugFace. Manual work is nothing to sneer at - it's vital, important, underpaid hard graft, that we couldn't do without.

Check your privilege.

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BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 15:28

SmartHome · 29/06/2023 15:14

Impressed you can even imagine it! It certainly makes for a good work-life balance and I enjoy not being stuck in an office all day.i also relaly enjoy my job, and the money it brings, so am happy to work flexibly and outside of the old-fashioned 9-5.

This is groundbreaking. Well done.

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TheWalrusdidbeseech · 29/06/2023 15:45

BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 15:18

Oh the smugness!

The hard working cafe workers are doing manual work, Smuggy McSmugFace. Manual work is nothing to sneer at - it's vital, important, underpaid hard graft, that we couldn't do without.

Check your privilege.

You keep ignoring the posts asking why exactly you are so angry?

BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 15:49

I'm not angry at all.

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Hubblebubble · 29/06/2023 16:06

Tomorrow, as I work from the gym cafe between my morning workout and lunchtime exercise class, I'll enhoy remembering I'm a cause for controversy!

flurbubbly · 29/06/2023 16:12

TheWalrusdidbeseech · 29/06/2023 12:52

why so much bitterness? It's puzzling.

Are you a failed writer and resent everyone else?
Jealous of those who are paid to basically spend the day in a Cafe?
Envious of those who you think have important or senior jobs when you are stuck in a cubicle somewhere?

Just what is your problem?

Yep, definitely one of those.

Sorry OP but I work almost entirely out of cafes, set my own hours, can pick and choose what work I want, can relax with a coffee, and earn a good living doing so.

But if you feel that spending days posting bitter rants about random strangers online is a better use of your time then you do you.

Elphame · 29/06/2023 16:17

I meet up with a few friends for coffee followed by lunch once a week. We must spend between us £100 or so a week.

It's full of workers on laptops, groups holding meetings and yes holding interviews. I hate how they glare at us for chatting. If they want a quiet environment then they can work at home. I'm not going to keep quiet for them.

The cafe doesn't think we are disruptive - they save the big round table for us specially!

KimberleyClark · 29/06/2023 16:20

That's cheeky. If you choose to work in a cafe you can't demand quiet.

MarkWithaC · 29/06/2023 16:21

BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 14:36

I don't think you can truly work sitting in a cafe, hence I've put 'work'. Too distracting. Why seek out that particular environment if you are purely working? It doesn't make sense.

Why do you think you know what works for other people? Genuine question.

I'm a book editor, so I need to focus minutely. I find working in cafes pretty conducive to concentration; something about the conversation, music etc being in the background makes it (for me) energising but focusing too. So I am working, not 'working' in your terminology. I am prepared, though, to believe that not everyone would find it the same.

BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 16:24

Hubblebubble · 29/06/2023 16:06

Tomorrow, as I work from the gym cafe between my morning workout and lunchtime exercise class, I'll enhoy remembering I'm a cause for controversy!

Try not to call anyone a Cunt though. Enjoy your day! 😊

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BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 16:26

Apologies Hubble, it was someone else who used that word near a child. Ignore my message below

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Hubblebubble · 29/06/2023 16:29

No worries!

Springbecamethesummer · 29/06/2023 16:34

If l had a cafe l would rent a few tables out, so much an hour. I don't think it's fair that people get to sit in there for hours at a time for free.

flurbubbly · 29/06/2023 16:36

Any cafe that charges people just to sit down at a table (on top of the cost of their food and drink) would go bust immediately.

BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 16:41

Springbecamethesummer · 29/06/2023 16:34

If l had a cafe l would rent a few tables out, so much an hour. I don't think it's fair that people get to sit in there for hours at a time for free.

This sounds sensible and good for business. They get warmth, free wifi and perhaps a free drink.

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KimberleyClark · 29/06/2023 16:51

flurbubbly · 29/06/2023 16:36

Any cafe that charges people just to sit down at a table (on top of the cost of their food and drink) would go bust immediately.

But you could do it so that only people who are planning to use the table to work for more than say 60 mins would pay. Like parking at a motorway services, you get two hours parking for free and if you want more you pay.

Frabbits · 29/06/2023 16:57

flurbubbly · 29/06/2023 16:36

Any cafe that charges people just to sit down at a table (on top of the cost of their food and drink) would go bust immediately.

On the contrary, there is a place near me which charges by the table and has much reduced prices for food and drink.

The idea being that if you do want to sit for a longish amount of time working then that's a more sensible way to charge.

They seem to be doing a roaring trade.

So.... yeah.

BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 16:57

Yes sounds sensible and they can be allocated an appropriately sized table.

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BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 16:58

CobbldyCook · 28/06/2023 10:06

Just ask them to share the table. Problem solved.

I don't want to share a table.

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flurbubbly · 29/06/2023 17:01

That's called a co-working space and it already exists. You'd be entering a crowded market.

If you're suggesting charging some people entry and not others, that would be impossible to police and would drive custom away.

What about people who are eating lunch and working at the same time? Do they get charged or not?

Using the space to have a meeting over coffee (which is indistinguishable from two people chatting over coffee)?

Do you have a situation where someone who has purchased expensive meals and wine is charged an additional entry fee just because they have a laptop with them, but mum groups who buy one cup of tea then sit for hours letting their kids tear the place up don't get charged?

Not practical I'm afraid.

Kazzyhoward · 29/06/2023 17:06

BeagleMum1 · 29/06/2023 16:58

I don't want to share a table.

Go to a different cafe where you don't have to then.

justasoul · 29/06/2023 17:06

I'm imagining the rage I might have caused by getting my second screen out and I’ve never noticed… Grin
I work from cafes because it’s noisy and busy. I work for myself and have no colleagues, so sometimes I like to enjoy the social nature of a cafe. Helps me get work done quicker.