...to be thinking of complaining to the BBC about the Cbeebies website (warning: not a life or death matter)

[MsHighwater]

I was on the Cbeebies site earlier today with my dd. We found a story on the Cbeebies section all about Edie, Archie and Spencer going on a hunt for Nessie. I was when I heard the narrator, who sounded like Julie Wilson Nimmo (Miss Hoolie) herself, saying "Lock Ness" instead of the proper (Scottish) pronunciation of Loch.

Does this imply that the BBC thinks that all non-Scottish people are too dim to understand the word when pronounced as a Scottish person (and a well-spoken one, at that) normally would?

Maybe Miss Hoolie isn't really Scottish and lost her accent at that point?

How should loch be pronounced? [thicko emoticon].

Ds loved the nessie hunt on cbeebies when he was younger!

She is Scottish

princessosyth, did you ever see the film "Titanic"? If so, remember the scene where Jack is teaching Rose to spit? It's quite a bit softer than that but otherwise similar. Sounds odd, I know, but it's hard to think of a better way to describe it. When you pronounce a hard "c", notice where the back of your palate meets the very back of your tongue. Leave a bit of a gap as you pronounce it instead.

cornsilk, Julie Wilson Nimmo definitely is Scottish, though.

As Scottish as they come.

You know when you "hooo' a mirror if you are cleaning it..that thing that women everywhere do when they breathe close on the mirror to make it come up shiny...well if you do that sound after 'lo' you should get the soft sounding 'loch'. It is almost a sighing sound.

I thought Miss Hoolie was from the Argyll Islands?

is a wind up? Does it really matter?

Strange thing to be about in my opinion

Naw, it does not really matter in the great scheme of things but there is just SOMETHING (can't quite put my finger on it) about hearing a word pronounced in a much harder way than normally pronounced.

hey jeremy how is your poorly mouth? I have root canal on tues. Can i hold your hand again!

YOU are NOT being unreasonable.
Complain!

Hi mehdismummy!
I was at the dentist for the 9th time yesterday and finally got the root canal treatment...WHAT A RELIEF!! Pain has gone and the chipmunk cheek is going away.
Take two paramol before you go and try to lie in a darkened room afterwards...they will numb your mouth and I honestly did not feel anything. Had a wallow in the Ocean of Self afterwards just for peace and quiet. Mwahaha.

lol. They have given me some extra strength co codadmol. So that helps! But pain does come back

Given that they are so keen to celebrate cultural differences you'd think they could make the bloody effort to pronounce Scottish words properly. Complain!

hmm, I'm a fluent Irish speaker so I have no problems at with knowing how to pronounce a Gaelic ch but I would say "Lock Ness" when speaking English. There again, in Ireland our lakes are mostly spelled Lough pronounced "lock" in English so I guess we do things slightly differently to the Scottish.

But isn't it possible that this woman is just pronouncing this word as she normally would? And that you are demanding a fake authenticity and blaming the BBC for not providing it?

I still laugh at my (English) cousin last year who kept talking about going for walks around the "loch" until I told her that in Ireland we just call them lakes

I did warn you that it wasn't that serious, I think.

Anyway, I don't know Julie Wilson Nimmo so I don't know how she normally pronounces the word. I'm making assumptions.

It just gets my dander up (slightly) to think that it might have been "anglified" unnecessarily (imho).

Anyway, I'm off now to recover having just emerged from having notched up some MN firsts. i.e. my first SAHM vs WOHM thread (sort of) and the first thread I've seen from almost the kick off to the last gasp (pronounced dead at 1006 posts).