Just, why???

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Newsnight just reported that according to one survey 8 out of 10 people are dissatisfied with the way the government are running the country, rising to 9 out of 10 amongst people with mortgages.

Who are the 2 out of 10 people who are satisfied? I appreciate political views differ but can even Tory voters think it’s going well? You might not want to vote Labour (or anyone else) but I can’t understand the thinking that says they’re doing a good job.

Good reminder that a huge proportion of people are state sector and want the Government to keep growing until we all collapse.

They don’t all vote Tory though. Labour will expand the protection racket even faster.

I've been around the block long enough to remember politics from the 1970s. Things were definitely better under the last Labour government - better investment in public services, more police, more nurses, better health care, more investment in education changes in the law to promote equality a better environment and less cruelty to animals.

Things weren't perfect, but ordinary day to day life was much better and more secure and full of optimism for the average person in the street.

And the people that have not over-stretched themselves, just in case interest rates take a turn towards the historic average higher rates than we've enjoyed recently, and have played safe in case inflation rears its head. Those that have a house and a mortgage, but settled for a smaller house rather than max out at 6 x joint salary or whatever the top limit was. That didn't instantly rip out the perfectly functional kitchen and get a £20k loan for a new one. That don't get a brand new car on PHP, but suffer a constant passing through of cheaper old ladies cars. That don't stick it on a credit card but save till they CAN pay for it. That don't holiday in the hot countries but are happy with The Sun £10 holiday . Etc. These are the people that can afford current times.

I usually do walk away from people like that, she had me cornered by some books I was looking at though. I think I didn’t feel threatened as she was an old woman.

But those who have been frugal still use all the systems and services provided by the government. Even people covering all their outgoings must wonder why they can't get an NHS dentist, why they have to wait for medical treatment, why the police force has dwindled, the schools are struggling, that mental health services have been run into the ground, rivers and the sea are being pumped with sewage, libraries are closing - mustn't they?

Just because within the walls of you're home you are financially ok, doesn't mean the world around you is as good as it was. Surely people notice this and link it to the government and their policies.

They're probably old enough to know this goes in cycles...

I'm one of them, but I have never, in my life, voted Conservative, and never will.

What they have done to the country over the past few years is criminal, and don't get me started on that total waste of space that led them for the past few years.

I've come to the conclusion that people are just thick op.

Chatting to someone the other day who tried to explain to me why their massively tory-voting-brexit-supporting area, where levels of deprivation are sky high, and life is definitely not better in any way after brexit, will likely still vote for the fuckers. "Because the labour candidate is annoying "

Fucking turkeys voting for fucking xmas! 🍗🎄

've been around the block long enough to remember politics from the 1970s. Things were definitely better under the last Labour government - better investment in public services, more police, more nurses, better health care, more investment in education changes in the law to promote equality a better environment and less cruelty to animals.

Things weren't perfect, but ordinary day to day life was much better and more secure and full of optimism for the average person in the street.

Absolutely agree with @BunnyBettChetwynnd!

Some people feel a need to validate their voting decisions by insisting they are happy with current living standards. Even though their vote is anonymous, and polls are anonymous, they stick with their position.

I think they all live in rural Surrey near me. Some parts of Surrey would vote a Box in if was Conservative. Always makes me laugh in our very very posh village when someone draws devil horns and a goatie on Mr Hunts poster.

If your outright own your country mansion of course your happy.

Be honest - are you the one drawing on the horns?

I’m surprised it’s so many tbh. I know a lot of people who have said they would definitely still vote Tory if there was an election tomorrow. Probably because there isn’t an alternative option atm. Labour have a lot to answer to for failing their voters and not stepping up. If they can’t we the floor with the current Tory party , then they should just turn off the lights and shut up shop. I honestly can’t see Labour getting into power for the foreseeable.

if they can’t wipe the floor

That's a bit like asking who the 2% are who believe a poster is being unreasonable for not wanting their neighbour to waltz in and help themselves to a bath before having a nap in the posters bed...

The people who have no mortgage and savings that are finally beginning to pay.

Labour would have locked down sooner (when people would have been even MORE resistant to the idea as it was still "that thing over there") and harder.
We probably still would have ended up in the same position too since nearly every country with a lock down was, regardless of what they did.

Not that I think the Tories have covered themselves in glory either

@AsIfIWish Can you ask your mother which Labour government ran the country into the ground, and how she thinks they did it?! I remember every government since the 70s and I don't believe she's remembering correctly. For me the worst times were the Thatcher / Major years, and Cameron onwards.

I keep hearing the phrase "13 years of failure" and I agree. The abject failure over the last 13 years of the Labour party to win an election is staggering, especially considering the bad job the Tories have been constantly doing throughout that period.

It is very rare for the UK public to be satisfied with the job their government is doing. Since 2000, through Labour and Tory governments, approval ratings have only gone over 50% for two very short periods (May-Oct 2010 and Mar-Apr 2020), and the current low approval was only surpassed in Oct 2022 during the Truss KamiKwasi debacle.

Well that perfectly describes me and many of the posters on this thread who are absolutely raging at the Tories for what they've visited on this country over the past 13 years.

I’m older and have no mortgage. My savings are minimal and my final salary pension is worth less and less. We don’t have dependents, but have funded them to get on the property ladder.

I’ve never voted Tory and never will. I can find no justification for the chaos that has been the last few years and the mess we’re in now. I feel disenfranchised because I don’t have the confidence that any of the politicians, of any colour can get us out of this mess.

I can’t get an NHS dentist, had to pay for private eye treatment because the waiting list was over two years and there would have been no point then.

Things have never been and never will be perfect, unless you have the money to buy whatever services you need, but at least you could expect the emergency services to support you in years past. It’s a shit show and I don’t understand how anyone can accept that the current regime have done anything useful.

@Ariela , ...but suffer a constant passing through of cheaper old ladies cars.

What exactly are old ladies cars?

@IveShaggedSomeMingers Old ladies cars are typically Corsas, Hyundai i10, etc. Low milage, small engines. Cheap to buy. Often come with FSH and are fine, some just have worn out clutches. Come with various scratches and dinks. All need MOTs because they've owned them for 10 years till they have to give up driving.

@Ariela, but why the term 'old ladies'. Sexist and ageist.

@IveShaggedSomeMingers Because cars traditionally are considered female. And they're older models. Hence older ladies cars. As opposed to 'older ladies' cars'