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Bad rumours at work (in a school)

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TheStandardLife · 17/06/2023 12:44

There's a bad rumour going around between staff that the nastiest teacher and I means she really is something, likes to look up other teachers, TA's and even PARENTS GCSE results and qualifications.

This cannot be true surely? I've never heard of some kind of database accessible where this could be held, bearing in mind most people's results would have been from 20+ years ago.

If she is doing it, and there is such a thing that's an invasion of privacy to some degree?

I understand all of our results could be on job websites from our CV'S or LinkedIn ect but if its true I think its very very wrong to just do it for "fun" and also just odd.

OP posts:
titchy · 17/06/2023 13:26

TheStandardLife · 17/06/2023 13:17

Supposedly she does it because she thinks everyone is stupid, and likes to check. Very odd person anyway, she would have access to it potentially as she is high up, but surely what ever she "finds out" she would incriminate herself for misusing the database.

No she won't. She can't access something that doesn't exist - which it won't for most people. Don't be so gullible.

Quartz2208 · 17/06/2023 13:26

She certainly wouldn’t have access as a teacher. I have Sims I can see current students results (work in exams) and we hold certificates for previous. She certainly couldn’t parents etc

titchy · 17/06/2023 13:29

Quartz2208 · 17/06/2023 13:26

She certainly wouldn’t have access as a teacher. I have Sims I can see current students results (work in exams) and we hold certificates for previous. She certainly couldn’t parents etc

Exactly. Unless OP's school is full of parents who had their children when they were young teenagers AND she's found out their DOBs AND she's found out their addresses from when they were 16.

hattyhathat · 17/06/2023 13:29

TheStandardLife · 17/06/2023 13:17

Supposedly she does it because she thinks everyone is stupid, and likes to check. Very odd person anyway, she would have access to it potentially as she is high up, but surely what ever she "finds out" she would incriminate herself for misusing the database.

Wtf... look either just tell the head or be done listening to rumors. Thus us ridiculous why would she care if people haven't got qualifications. she thinks everyone is stupid is she 7?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 17/06/2023 13:30

Chowtime · 17/06/2023 12:54

Yes SIMS. I couldn't remember what it was called.

When I was an NVQ assessor if a learner couldn't remember whether she had passed a certain qualification many years ago we could access that data base and find out. Because depending on the highest qualification a learner had depended on whether or not she could have public funding for her course. I can't remember though whether it was actually me that looked it up or whether I passed it on to my manager and he looked it up.

Anyway, there's definately such a database.

She'll be in big trouble for accessing that unnecessarily.

The Record of Achievement database closed years ago. The Learning Records Service doesn't carry anything pre-2012.

The LRS carries dire warnings at every login and you can't get a hit unless you have name, date of birth and either postcode or UPN/ULN.

AtomicBlondeRose · 17/06/2023 13:34

I teach in a college and often struggle to find out last year’s results for the students I actually taught! I don’t necessarily even know parents’ names.

MerryHen · 17/06/2023 13:42

Let's say there was some sort of record, surely there would be a record of what she has accessed on both her user and the record she's viewed? So it could be checked?

I work in the NHS and any patient record we view is recorded. I'd be in serious trouble (and in breach of my professional body's code) if I viewed records unnecessarily. You'd think access to educational records would be similarly regulated.

PetitPorpoise · 17/06/2023 13:45

Do people really think there is some national database of all your education records, like the NHS one, that staff can just search and snoop?

There's no such thing.

MerryHen · 17/06/2023 13:46

MerryHen · 17/06/2023 13:42

Let's say there was some sort of record, surely there would be a record of what she has accessed on both her user and the record she's viewed? So it could be checked?

I work in the NHS and any patient record we view is recorded. I'd be in serious trouble (and in breach of my professional body's code) if I viewed records unnecessarily. You'd think access to educational records would be similarly regulated.

Also just to add, we only hold records of treatment received in our hospital. Any treatment received in primary care or even other hospitals in our trust isn't viewable which can be a right pain.

So I'd be really impressed if education has managed to develop such a universal database!

Justawaterformeplease · 17/06/2023 13:53

They used to publish ours in the local paper (maybe still do…?) - if people are local maybe she goes to the library and looks up old papers on microfilm? That would obviously be incredibly weird and time-consuming, but possible.

wizzywig · 17/06/2023 13:54

Well she would be very impressed with my results

JRHartleysmum · 17/06/2023 13:55

Mine are from 1990, and as someone else said, one of the exam boards doesn’t even exist anymore. I very much doubt mine are on any sort of national database.

MasterBeth · 17/06/2023 14:01

She's incredibly stupid herself if she thinks exam results from when you were 16 prove how smart you are now.

StaySpicy · 17/06/2023 14:03

If there's some national database, then why do I have to take my qualification certificates with me when I go for a new job? Surely they would just look up your details on the database. Much easier to check that you're not lying.

So I doubt it exists.

ChadCMulligan · 17/06/2023 14:05

>she thinks everyone is stupid

Judging by the fact that this rumours is credible enough to be spread and some of the nonsense on this thread, if she did hold that view she wouldn't be entirely wrong.

Lairyfiquid · 17/06/2023 14:07

A year back i thought about retraining as a social worker through one of the get paid while you train schemes. In the end, I didn't due to a requirement to prove GCSE results, despite having both an under and post grad qualification. I did my GCSEs 20 odd years ago and somewhere in my many house moves the certificates have disappeared. I looked in to getting replacement copies of these and found that I had to pay a not inconsequential amount to each separate exam board that I believed I might have had exams under. There was no way of checking in advance whether they had a record of me- it was pay blindly in advance and if they did not have any records for me, I could apply for a percentage refund of what I had paid. I would have had to do this for each exam board- which I think was 4 that I could recall from GCSE and A level. In the end I decided that it was too much effort and went for a different career change instead.

Anyway- that's a rambly way of saying if there is a national database of results could someone please let me know where just in case I get a desire to move careers again!!

TooJoy · 17/06/2023 14:13

It actually sounds like this woman is the victim of bullying.

Who is spreading these vicious lies about her?

Fairymother · 17/06/2023 14:14

Sounds like she has a very boring life. Couldnt get worked up about this tbh.

Catsanfan · 17/06/2023 14:15

SIMS definitely doesn't hold that information on any I've ever seen. She can check their QTS and that's it. Parents academic achievements are DEFINITELY not on SIMS, the mere idea is absurd unless they all went to said school. The only way she could do it would be to look at their HR files.

Doggymummar · 17/06/2023 14:22

I smell BS

BillyNoM8s · 17/06/2023 14:30

If a bunch of qualified teaching staff believe that someone is breaching GDPR of parents/students/colleagues is there a reason they're engaging in nonsensical gossip rather than reporting it to the appropriate people/bodies?

I can't imagine anywhere that a teacher would be accessing random parents GCSE results. A fair chunk of them won't even have the same name they were at school with.

If you think it's feasible and true, then how about doing something?

Considering schools are supposed to have anti bullying policies in place, you adults are all aware of the damage that malicious gossip can do?

titchy · 17/06/2023 14:36

StaySpicy · 17/06/2023 14:03

If there's some national database, then why do I have to take my qualification certificates with me when I go for a new job? Surely they would just look up your details on the database. Much easier to check that you're not lying.

So I doubt it exists.

Well as several of us has said, there is the LRS. But only people working in education can access it, not employers, and it only includes school and college qualifications from the last 10 years (and even then not full records).

determinedtomakethiswork · 17/06/2023 14:40

StroppyTop · 17/06/2023 13:12

There is a centrally held record of qualifications achieved since 2012.
It is called the Personal Learning Record and is managed by the Learning Record Service, part of Gov.uk

That would hardly apply to the children's parents though. It sounds as though this woman is looking at people on LinkedIn. I think if you pay for LinkedIn then you can see who's looking at your profile.

Iyjd · 17/06/2023 14:43

BillyNoM8s · 17/06/2023 14:30

If a bunch of qualified teaching staff believe that someone is breaching GDPR of parents/students/colleagues is there a reason they're engaging in nonsensical gossip rather than reporting it to the appropriate people/bodies?

I can't imagine anywhere that a teacher would be accessing random parents GCSE results. A fair chunk of them won't even have the same name they were at school with.

If you think it's feasible and true, then how about doing something?

Considering schools are supposed to have anti bullying policies in place, you adults are all aware of the damage that malicious gossip can do?

I hope OP isn’t teaching my kids because I would rather the focus was on the kids and not gossiping about other members of staff. I’ve no idea if such a database exists, but I am a teacher at a senior level and it’s not something I have ever been told about or have access to. I can’t access GCSE results from more than 3 years ago.

Mol75 · 17/06/2023 14:54

TheStandardLife · 17/06/2023 13:17

Supposedly she does it because she thinks everyone is stupid, and likes to check. Very odd person anyway, she would have access to it potentially as she is high up, but surely what ever she "finds out" she would incriminate herself for misusing the database.

What - she thinks they were stupid when they were sixteen? I certainly was stupid at sixteen - in many, many ways. 😂 If true, it’s a bit pathetic to say the least. Wouldn’t give it the time of day.