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Nosey neighbours benefits question?

41 replies

Anonymou574 · 15/06/2023 23:30

Anonymous because I know people in this group. I guess question is would you report someone if you believe they are lying on their application?

I live within a little area and all of us neighbours are generally quite close. My neighbour got awarded pip standard care high mobility about 3 months ago. Neighbour in question came up in discussion with the neighbours and a few mentioned she didn't believe she was entitled to high rate mobility and believes she lied to gain it. They frequently go for outings walking food etc for a few hrs at a time also she attends yoga classes and some exercise classes roughly 4/5 times a week does all school rubs etc Due to this one of the group said she was going to report her as its not right as she clearly doesn't have any mobility issues and certainly not enough for high rate care. I tend to stay out of any drama were close but I haven't been in the area as long as the others so I didn't give any input. My question is do I tell said neighbour that a few of the others are thinking of reporting her? Do I stay out of it? One of the ladies applied for pip and got u rejected so I'm wondering if it's coming from anger?

OP posts:
007DoubleOSeven · 15/06/2023 23:33

You don't know on what basis it was awarded for. Exercise can all be modified for disabilities - it is for mine, and what's more it's crucial for maintaining the independence I've retained.

And people with disabilities are allowed a social life.

Your friend should appeal, and you should stay out of it.

NewBootsAndRanty · 15/06/2023 23:35

007DoubleOSeven · 15/06/2023 23:33

You don't know on what basis it was awarded for. Exercise can all be modified for disabilities - it is for mine, and what's more it's crucial for maintaining the independence I've retained.

And people with disabilities are allowed a social life.

Your friend should appeal, and you should stay out of it.

100% this.

Sparklesocks · 15/06/2023 23:37

You can’t tell how sick/in pain someone is from observing them from afar, and it’s nobody else’s business anyway. Classic case of keep your beak out.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 15/06/2023 23:37

Another in favour of MYOB.

ValleyClouds · 15/06/2023 23:37

Do I stay out of it?

Forever

WonderfulUsername · 15/06/2023 23:39

I tend to stay out of any drama 🤣🤣🤣

Just stay out of it.

wildfirewonder · 15/06/2023 23:39

Stay out of it and be careful never to discuss any of your own business with these people. They sound like bad apples to me, too much gossiping.

LIZS · 15/06/2023 23:39

Stay out of it. Your neighbours have no idea of the extent of pain or difficulties the other neighbour may suffer and tolerate. Some exercise may well be encouraged by hcps and she may take strong medication. It may not even be consistent. Pip is based upon describing the worst day. Tbh they sound bitter at refusal of their claim and might be better to focus on that,

XenoBitch · 15/06/2023 23:40

PIP is notoriously hard to get. Keep your beak out, and suggest the other neighbours do the same.

You will gain nothing by reporting her.

NewBootsAndRanty · 15/06/2023 23:41

..."entitled to high rate mobility and believes she lied to gain it.
"My neighbour got awarded pip standard care high mobility"
"its not right as she clearly doesn't have any mobility issues and certainly not enough for high rate care."

But she doesn't get high rate care

TobiasForgesContactLense · 15/06/2023 23:45

But the clue is in the name. It is a personal independence payment. So if she is using the payment to pay for exercise classes that keep her well enough to do school runs and enjoy family life such as outings that is literally the point.

stayathomer · 15/06/2023 23:46

Op I don’t want to be one of those posters, but my mil uses a wheelchair some days, a cane others, and others can walk, appearing ‘normal’. She does aqua aerobics. She has plates in her spine, two knees that are floating and one foot slightly shorter than the other, as well as a range of ailments. What what what is it to you or your group? Do they honestly have no other things to worry about in life?

Babyroobs · 15/06/2023 23:49

LIZS · 15/06/2023 23:39

Stay out of it. Your neighbours have no idea of the extent of pain or difficulties the other neighbour may suffer and tolerate. Some exercise may well be encouraged by hcps and she may take strong medication. It may not even be consistent. Pip is based upon describing the worst day. Tbh they sound bitter at refusal of their claim and might be better to focus on that,

It is not based on a worst day. A Pip award is awarded based on how a person is on the majority of days.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 15/06/2023 23:53

By close with the neighbours you mean you all gossip about things you have no idea about
Keep your nose out
Enhanced rate of both components here

Whenwillitallmakesense · 15/06/2023 23:55

I'm going to predict OP doesn't come back on this thread once but it will go on page after page, half the people defending benefit claimants and the other half will be benefit claimant bashers.

NewBootsAndRanty · 16/06/2023 00:06

Babyroobs · 15/06/2023 23:49

It is not based on a worst day. A Pip award is awarded based on how a person is on the majority of days.

So anything more than 50% of the time?

ValleyClouds · 16/06/2023 00:06

Yep, Totally agree @Whenwillitallmakesense

baroqueandblue · 16/06/2023 00:07

Whenwillitallmakesense · 15/06/2023 23:55

I'm going to predict OP doesn't come back on this thread once but it will go on page after page, half the people defending benefit claimants and the other half will be benefit claimant bashers.

This made me chuckle. Spot on!

So, depending on your preference, it's popcorn or bed. Personally, it's goodnight from me 😴

Whenwillitallmakesense · 16/06/2023 00:10

You never know, might even make it onto the illustrious pages of DM. Goodnight

PinkBuffalo · 16/06/2023 00:12

I get pip for mobility and go to the gym, walk for miles etc

i was awarded it cos I absolutely CANNOT find my way somewhere new or follow a unfamiliar journey without significant support

to someone looking at me they might think the same but you got no idea really

stinkywiskers · 16/06/2023 00:12

Wind your fucking neck in. News flash. You can get PIP for purely mental health reasons including the mobility component. Guess what, that covers all the activities for both components. Who'd have thought it eh?!

OpenDoors72 · 16/06/2023 00:29

I would fully stay out of it unless you want all of them on both sides to hate you.

PIP seems random anyway. I applied with 20+ years of medical records for bipolar and severe migraines that mean I can't drive, though have a medical driving licence. I scored zero points.

I've met people with seemingly very mild conditions who got awarded PIP.

Thelnebriati · 16/06/2023 00:33

I live within a little area and all of us neighbours are generally quite close.

You'll be disabused of that as soon as you step out of line and they turn on you like they turned on your disabled neighbour.

NewBootsAndRanty · 16/06/2023 00:35

It's not necessarily the severity of a condition, but how it impacts your life.
I think it also depends on your assessor.
I can't drive for medical reasons (and usually find public transport difficult for MH reasons), but haven't yet qualified for the mobility element.

I did get a big brown DWP envelope of doom in the post the other day with a review form, mind...

frogssnailandpuppydogtails · 16/06/2023 00:37

wildfirewonder · 15/06/2023 23:39

Stay out of it and be careful never to discuss any of your own business with these people. They sound like bad apples to me, too much gossiping.

Yes this , I have always kept my cards close to my chest with new people and if it turns out they are the gossipy type never share any personal information with them . I mean you described the neighbours as quite close , and yet here she is willing to stick the knife in the back of a friend .

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