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to be irritated by this work email?

132 replies

BoldChild · 15/06/2023 19:35

Note: This is a large international company, and I am a very tiny fish in a very large pond, but I’ll still paraphrase to avoid any major identifiers

An email went around our (fully remote) company today by new management and went a little something like this:

”Hello, everyone. As this year has been hard on our business, we have decided to implement the following rule: If you are behind in target, you will have to report to your local office and attend the office for a minimum of 4 days. This is so your manager can oversee your daily work and ensure you are doing your job. Your manager will track every phone call and email, and how many clients/customers you reach out to. You will continue to report to the office until your numbers to pick up.

Failure to meet targets will result in an immediate requirement to report to the office. This is non-optional, and everyone must comply. We will not accept any excuses.”

NOW… I am totally on board with the whole “if you’re not doing what you’re supposed to be doing, there’s an issue there” but the nature of the email really just irks me.

It reminds me of being back in school, with a teacher threatening to sit beside you to make sure you’ve done your maths instead of talking to your friends. Like if employees do not show up the office, they’ll call our parents.

Am I being unreasonable to feel this is very condescending? And unfair to those who may be struggling due to reasons that aren’t their fault (mental health, illness, personal issues, etc)? These people will be called out in front of their entire team and marched into the offices against their will, and it just seems totally unfair to do to someone instead of handling any issues privately.

I’m honestly considering handing in my notice

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LillyoftheMountain · 15/06/2023 20:38

There is no way I could work in that kind of environment.

Eleganz · 15/06/2023 20:39

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 15/06/2023 20:10

I think for the right people it works but there are a lot who take the pee.

Whereas no-one slacked off and fucked around when everyone was in the office of course. Model workers, the lot of them.

PineappleLatte · 15/06/2023 20:39

coxesorangepippin · 15/06/2023 20:09

I can see where they are coming from. If you aren’t hitting targets when remote working then being in the office can help with coaching and improvement plans.

If you love being at home surely this will help incentivise you to meet targets and be productive?

^

God spare me

God spare you what exactly?

daisychain01 · 15/06/2023 20:40

Improving performance by turning attendance in the office into a punishment - go figure and putting staff under the microscope.

Management are idiots.

thecatsthecats · 15/06/2023 20:41

It's piss poor management because slackers will find a way to slack wherever they are. And right now, many sales teams will be struggling as businesses and individuals make cutbacks.

So the deadwood will always have been there - and they didn't give a fuck until it hit the bottom line. Which means the better employees will likely have been under rewarded for their contribution, and the low performers under managed.

They should have cared about performance much earlier than until a slump. And they'll lose the good staff as well as the bad by addressing it like this.

My2pence2day · 15/06/2023 20:42

Eleganz · 15/06/2023 20:39

Whereas no-one slacked off and fucked around when everyone was in the office of course. Model workers, the lot of them.

Why are you defending people who are slacking off when they wfh? No one has the right to wfh, especially if you're not working Hmm

ememem84 · 15/06/2023 20:44

PineappleLatte · 15/06/2023 19:41

I can see where they are coming from. If you aren’t hitting targets when remote working then being in the office can help with coaching and improvement plans.

If you love being at home surely this will help incentivise you to meet targets and be productive?

I can see it too. My old assistant was rubbish at wfh. He literally didn’t do anything. So as soon as we could after the first lockdown he was asked to come to the office and one of the team was always in with him to keep an eye out and make sure he was doing what he was meant to be doing.

Backstreets · 15/06/2023 20:44

Agree the email is bad, but I'm guessing it was sent out for a good reason. I've met a few people who were born to WFH but not many.

Catbumps · 15/06/2023 20:45

You MUST COMPLY. OR DIE.

twats

BoldChild · 15/06/2023 20:45

ZenNudist · 15/06/2023 19:52

So what would you suggest? Treat targets like they are purely optional? Let people have all of the benefits of home working and the company just cope with the downsides with no recourse to improve things?

What's your incentive to hit target? Do you get financial compensation? I'd prefer carrot to stick but maybe having an element of performance based pay would also go down badly.

Do you appreciate that if the company doesn't hit targets then it won't be able to pay employees as much and may have to delay promotions, hold off on pay rises, maybe make cuts.

You need to think commercially. It's a great benefit to WFH and the company is right to try and still get results whilst offering benefits to employees.

As I’ve said, I can see why the managers are going this route and I know myself people are taking the piss WFH.

We get financial compensation for hitting targets. Those who don’t, don’t get anything extra. We already have performance based pay, and performance based perks (hotel trips, vouchers, etc)

I do appreciate that the company has to make money. However in 2020, 2021 and 2022, we were over target and a bunch of us (myself included) were told we would not be given increases to our salaries (despite being told we would twice) because the company couldn’t afford it. So even when the company is over target, they still can’t afford to compensate us.

I also appreciate thinking commercially. Better performance equals better results equals more money equals more business equals even more money. I get that. But when our performance has been top quality and we aren’t seeing the results of that in our own pockets, I and my colleagues have every right to stop thinking commercially and start thinking about our own financial security

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ScientificallyProcessed · 15/06/2023 20:46

I can’t count how many people on MN that think it’s their right to wfh with no childcare in place.. I’m on the employers side on this. If you are underperforming you need to go to the office to get coaching.

And unfair to those who may be struggling due to reasons that aren’t their fault (mental health, illness, personal issues, etc)?

How on earth is this their problem? If you can’t do your job you need to find a job you can do.

Macaroni46 · 15/06/2023 20:47

PurplePear7 · 15/06/2023 19:43

I think this is quite common, and I do think it’s fair enough. Although I know everyone will disagree with me 😬

I agree. I think people who have jobs that can be done from home have got too used to it. Nothing wrong about being brought back into the office.
But I agree the 'support' being offered seems heavy handed. Maybe too many employees are taking the piss? I've read quite a few threads where people are looking after DC whilst WFH.

Babyroobs · 15/06/2023 20:47

I'd feel a bit irritated but if I knew I wasn't a slacker I wouldn't take it personally. Having in the past worked with some really lazy people i would just assume the company had had enough !

crazyaboutcats · 15/06/2023 20:47

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BoldChild · 15/06/2023 20:49

Crikeyalmighty · 15/06/2023 19:56

@LakieLady I don't disagree with the underlying issue but do disagree with the handling of it and think it should have been an individual email to the individuals concerned. Is this a very 'sales' dominated job with very specific targets OP??

It would be similar to a sales environment. Very competitive. I’d say about 90% of the company are genuine hard workers, and there’s a definite 10% of people who just couldn’t be arsed and think delegating is an excellent skill to perfect, so I totally agree in the underlying issue being dealt with

I just think it was a very odd way to go about addressing it

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crazyaboutcats · 15/06/2023 20:49

This has likely been devised and written for a handful or even single person who is increasingly doing less and less.

It's shite that you get told off for it but it's easier for them to do it this way

CruCru · 15/06/2023 20:49

Must admit that my first thought was whether your company have decided that they need to cut headcount (and want to save on redundancy payouts). Those who are not performing and don’t want to go into the office will leave.

It may be that this also annoys some people who are doing well and they leave too. I expect that management think that they will lose far more underperformers than outperformers.

WideFootWelly · 15/06/2023 20:50

This sounds like a company that has managers that aren't addressing performance issues, so they're implementing a policy so they can say 'senior management said you have to do this', rather than having honest conversations with employees that are underperforming and using a capability or disciplinary policy to remove or improve those employees.

They're threatening all of you instead.

I bet they haven't even offered any retraining or support to those underperforming.

Beaverbridge · 15/06/2023 20:50

Sounds more like a "their" problem than a " you" problem.

BoldChild · 15/06/2023 20:51

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 15/06/2023 20:05

So your contract states you are a homeworker?

It states that I have the option to work remotely, hybrid or on-site. This was a renewed contract that came into effect in 2021

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HareRaising · 15/06/2023 20:51

EyelessArseFace · 15/06/2023 19:46

Seems that maybe they've discovered that some employees are royally taking the piss, and this is aimed as a warning to them to pull their socks up or else.

If it doesn't apply to you, ignore it.

This is how I would see it too.

SleeplessinScarbourough · 15/06/2023 20:53

Sounds like tactics from somewhere I used to work, rather than address the individuals that were caught wrongdoing they brought in ridiculous micromanaging tactics on everyone in order to control the few that were taking the piss.
I think you’re right to leave Op

HareRaising · 15/06/2023 20:53

Also having worked with some incredibly lazy people (in a work environment) in the past I can just imagine how some people take the piss when they are at home.

BoldChild · 15/06/2023 20:54

CasperGutman · 15/06/2023 20:30

To bring another perspective, how do the managers feel about this? Have they been working from home too? Will they now be expected to be in the office for a week every time one of their employees misses a performance target? If not, how does a staff member being in the office help their manager to monitor their performance? If so, as a manager I would be looking for a new job PDQ.

The managers aren’t on board with this either. They all WFH too, so this would disrupt them more than anyone

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BoldChild · 15/06/2023 20:56

loveandpoprockz · 15/06/2023 20:35

They clearly don’t trust their staff do they. The first statement suggests they are in financial trouble which in itself would make me start looking for another job.

I have been told twice that they can’t afford to raise my salary, despite it being due for a pay rise for the last 2 years

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