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Dog barking- help

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woofwoofwoofwoof2 · 12/06/2023 11:37

Just want to start by saying I absolutely adore my dog and i know barking is part of having a dog lol. But I’ve had dogs all my life and never experienced anything like this before and wondered if anyone else has.

I’ve got the most beautifully natured golden retriever imaginable (not that I’m biased at all, lol!) she’s 5 and we’ve had her from a pup. She has endless energy (working line!) and has more than enough mental and physical stimulation. She comes with me out and about and spends hours everyday running about fields, woods, countryside etc. we have livestock and live rurally so she is always out with me and keeping busy. She also goes on normal walks too as well as trips to the local beach and other different places to explore. We play mental games too so her mind isn’t bored either. The vet said her routine is great and she’s a healthy happy dog.

but she barks SO much. I’ve never had a dog like it before. Even my old husky was quieter. Sometimes she is barking because she hears someone walking past or she hears a sound outside which is admittedly annoying as it’s ALL the time. It’s not even like she’s guarding or being defensive. She just gets up and barks when she hears a sound. We‘ve had countless trainers and everyone has said she is not acting defensively- it’s as if she hears a sound and has to add her own sound to it. She’s always been like this and no matter how much or little stimulation and exercise she gets, barking is her default mode ALL the time.

on top of that, she barks randomly all the time too. If she plays with her toys she barks while doing it. If she is out in the garden and is sunbathing she will sometimes just bark. If she wants something from the fridge, she barks at it until we distract her with something else, then she barks at that too lol. If she is bored, she barks. If we are chatting and she is sitting happily with us, she’ll bark along too. She just randomly barks for no reason and she seems to genuinely love it. She just barks CONSTANTLY.

I love her to bits and I know dogs bark but this is draining lol. She’s been checked by the vet, dog behaviourist, trainers etc the conclusion is that she just loves the sound of her own voice lol. We’ve tried distraction, ignoring it, training her to stop barking when she starts etc but she honestly just loves to bark and nothing has made much difference. The specialists said it’s a tricky one because it’s not like she’s barking out of aggression or fear, it’s purely because she’s a very vocal dog and loves her own voice lol

has anyone experienced this and have any advice? TIA!

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woofwoofwoofwoof2 · 12/06/2023 11:38

I feel so guilty for posting this because it sounds like I’m complaining about her and we love her to pieces. I don’t want her to stop barking because it’s what dogs do after all but just not every second of the day because it can get extremely draining lol

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JauntyJinty · 12/06/2023 11:44

I feel like if all the trainers and vets haven't been able to help you I doubt I will but I'll give it a go nether the less!

It's a lot easier to train a dog to do something than it is to train them to not do something, if that makes sense. Someone I knews dog used to bark like crazy everytime the doorbell rang (fairly normal to be fair!) - they trained the dog to go get a toy when the doorbell rang - toy in mouth = unable to bark. Could something like that help?

primoseyellow · 12/06/2023 11:51

Whenever you know she's about to bark call her to you and click and treat. Obviously you can't predict every bark, but for the first few days really try to get in there first.

If she barks when you are talking to someone or sitting relaxing turn your back on her and once she is quiet for 3 full seconds turn back and click and treat her.

She has to learn when she is quiet good things happen, when she barks too much its boring for her and she gets no attention.

Rhondaa · 12/06/2023 11:53

I know they are controversial but can't you try a muzzle as a short term, break the habit fix? Stick it on as soon as she barks and take it off when not barking with treats. Or one of those spray collars? (Not a cruel shock one obviously) just those that give a spray of water so they associate a bad habit with an unpleasant spray?

Must be awful and stressful for everyone to have a dog constantly barking I couldn't do it no matter how much I love dogs. A bark at a knock on the door is my limit.

primoseyellow · 12/06/2023 11:56

Please please do not try a muzzle, the dog doesn't know she is doing anything wrong, if you put a muzzle or get cross she will get anxious and start other bad behaviour.

Also by the time you faff about with a muzzle the moment will be lost, its really a horrible idea.

Rhondaa · 12/06/2023 12:01

A collar then. Google anti bark collars, all humane lots of good reviews. Your sanity is worth it. Good luck.

woofwoofwoofwoof2 · 12/06/2023 12:38

I appreciate taking the time to offer advice but I would NEVER ever consider an anti bark collar or a muzzle, ever, as I don’t believe it’s a humane way to control an animal and she’s not doing anything wrong (as annoying as constant barking can be) she’s just being vocal in her own way so I want to reduce the barking but not give her in trouble for it IYSWIM x

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woofwoofwoofwoof2 · 12/06/2023 12:40

JauntyJinty · 12/06/2023 11:44

I feel like if all the trainers and vets haven't been able to help you I doubt I will but I'll give it a go nether the less!

It's a lot easier to train a dog to do something than it is to train them to not do something, if that makes sense. Someone I knews dog used to bark like crazy everytime the doorbell rang (fairly normal to be fair!) - they trained the dog to go get a toy when the doorbell rang - toy in mouth = unable to bark. Could something like that help?

That sounds like a good idea and definitely worth a try! Honestly I think she just does it out of habit, it’s sweet sometimes because she’ll just bark away to herself as if she’s having a little conversation to herself, it’s like the dog equivalent of a baby babbling away to themselves (although much louder and more annoying lol)

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woofwoofwoofwoof2 · 12/06/2023 12:40

primoseyellow · 12/06/2023 11:51

Whenever you know she's about to bark call her to you and click and treat. Obviously you can't predict every bark, but for the first few days really try to get in there first.

If she barks when you are talking to someone or sitting relaxing turn your back on her and once she is quiet for 3 full seconds turn back and click and treat her.

She has to learn when she is quiet good things happen, when she barks too much its boring for her and she gets no attention.

Yeah good idea. We tried it and it didn’t have much effect but im going to try it again with her and see if it reduces it even a little bit. Thank you!

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Sarfar45 · 12/06/2023 12:56

As well as the click and treat training, I would try and limit opportunities to bark.

Our dog barks more when at the front of the house. If he's allowed to, he gets into a cycle of starting to bark and he gets excited which leads to more barking. Dogs release adrenaline when barking that make's barking enjoyable for them.

I shut the front room door in the daytime and if he being particularly annoying he's only allowed in the kitchen/dining room!
When we started this, after a few days of not being able practice barking he was a lot calmer and quieter.
I also used an adaptil plug in for a few months along with training.

Rhondaa · 12/06/2023 13:20

woofwoofwoofwoof2 · 12/06/2023 12:38

I appreciate taking the time to offer advice but I would NEVER ever consider an anti bark collar or a muzzle, ever, as I don’t believe it’s a humane way to control an animal and she’s not doing anything wrong (as annoying as constant barking can be) she’s just being vocal in her own way so I want to reduce the barking but not give her in trouble for it IYSWIM x

Perhaps you should have mentioned in your op that you wouldn't consider muzzles or collars. I'm surprised you haven't been advised to try clickers by all the trainers you've consulted but good luck it may work 🤞.

With barking dogs you've got to remember this doesn't just affect you, it affects neighbours, friends, visitors. Unless you live alone and remotely of course.

We've lived near a barker and it is a stressful nightmare, such a horrible noise ruining summer days in the garden. If the clicker doesn't work do reconsider a collar, they are humane, they have sounds and vibrations to distract, absolutely nothing cruel about that.

Dora26 · 12/06/2023 13:33

Don’t know how a muzzle could be used to retrain a barker, but they are definitely not cruel: my springer was making herself very ill scavenging - even on lead - think stones wood and all sorts of discarded food. After spending €1,300 on an op her vet recommended wearing a muzzle. Rosie comes running to put it on as she knows it means walkies

Pigstrotter · 12/06/2023 14:20

I really don’t mean to offend, but perhaps the dog is spoilt, deaf, or has MH issues. Dogs bark, but there’s usually something wrong if they bark constantly.

Newuser82 · 12/06/2023 16:46

Have you tried the "quiet" cue? So when she is barking ignore and wait for her to stop. As soon as she does say "quiet", click and treat (if you use a clicker). Keep doing that then very gradually build up the time she is quiet before getting a treat.

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