Finding this friend very selfish regarding child vaccinations

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My friend was telling me how she split the 1 year vaccinations for both of her children into two appointments because she thought getting all 4 vaccines in 1 day might cause her kids to be too poorly.

So she took up two appointments, rather than just one.

Aibu or is this just a waste of time ? Or did anyone else also request it ? I was surprised she was even allowed to do that.

IMO this is fine. Some medical sources suggest that they are split if it is feasible. For adults too.

Your GP surgery makes money on each vaccine,they will spread it as much as the parent want as long as they can shift them. If their patients vaccine rate is over 97pcnt they get a nice annual bonus.

I have 5 children, 4 completely unvaxxed,one had 3/4 month ones. Not everyone wants them and she does have a point,separating them has shown reduced rate of side effects and it also will show which vaccine has caused a side effect if there is a complication.

Are you sure you are her “friend”? You dont sound like it.

There could be a reason. DD had a terrible (hospital overnight) reaction to 8 week jabs so nurse supported splitting the 16 week ones across 2 weeks

I'd not care at all all that would matter to me is she isn't an anti vaxxer

At least she's vaccinating them. I can't get too worked up compared to the alternative.

Presumably the surgery could’ve pushed back if they thought it was a problem. I can really see the issue.

The GP won’t care as long as they get their bonus.
Many surgeries have vaccination clinics and prioritise them, so she’s likely not taking another appointment.

It's a form of cognitive bias called the Dunning Kruger effect. People with a superficial understanding of a complex subject wildly overestimate their level of competence. Think of it as the "everything I don't understand must be simple" complex.

https://www.britannica.com/science/Dunning-Kruger-effect

The nurse who did my sons 12 week jabs offered us the option of splitting the jabs if we felt it was too much for either us or him. Surely if the surgery thought it was a problem they wouldn't let them do it.

Thing is, it's active,y encouraged on here with all the "you know what's best for your child..." and "trust your gut, hun..." type bollocks that gets posted.

Almost as if popping a baby out somehow gives people instant, in-depth medical knowledge.

I really do wish people could understand that, no, producing a child doesn't mean we automatically know what's best. It's easily evidenced by the absolutely idiotic things some people do with, and to, their children.

I absolutely do judge non vaxers more (maybe not to their face.)

With my first we had whopping cough and it was awful and debilitating for a couple of months and frightening checking she was breathing each time. (Just before whopping cough valine came in)

With my second I had a heightened anxiety of being around non vaxers after that experience and stopped going to a crunchy mother and toddlers...

My mum went with the double vax the first time I had them, but after I'd gotten quite poorly the second doses (however long later) she made sure were a few weeks apart.

That was probably around 30 years ago.

Honestly, in a world full of anti vaxxers and shit parents, this is nothing. The surgery has probably seen enough cases of side effects from a double dose that they won't question the request for spacing out of jabs.

Aaah I see so many on here would gladly throw away the concept of consent being needed for medical procedures yet again, and when people challenge that - they just start with the "anti-vax" and "must be stupid" type claptrap.

One of my kids had a reaction to one of the later childhood vaccines (think it was the MMR - not in a "ZOMG AUTISM" way, but just in a vaccine that really hadn't agreed with her type of way) and I fully reserve the right as her parent to use that knowledge of how her immune system has behaved in the past to request adaptations to vaccine schedules as the need arises.

I was never really comfortable with the one where they get 4 jabs in one go though - they're at least partly scheduled like that on the basis that it's easier to get parents to comply for a one-off appointment than return visits and it's a lot of potentially feeling crappy for a couple of days for one little body in one go.

As for the horror of taking up NHS time - I have clients I work with who require multiple hour-long visits to their home to get them to engage with an assessment task that should take no more than 20 minutes on a neurotypical "standard" population - it's what they need as an adjustment to be able to get them to engage with these assessments, so it's what we provide.

As for the horror of taking up NHS time - I have clients I work with who require multiple hour-long visits to their home to get them to engage with an assessment task that should take no more than 20 minutes on a neurotypical "standard" population - it's what they need as an adjustment to be able to get them to engage with these assessments, so it's what we provide.

How's that relevant to the vaccine scenario, unless you're talking about non-NT parents?

I wouldnt be too worried about this, main thing is to get vaccinated and they're not taking up a Dr appointment. Theres obviously no benefit in what she's doing the, the human immune system is quite capable of managing, think about how many different bugs they're exposed to everyday life!

Conversely in what she's doing she probably is actually causing slightly more suffering for her child because now there is going to be two episodes where they may experience mild illness like symptoms as part of the immune response. Still obviously worth it to have the benefits of being vaccinated, but you're right it is odd that rather then get in all out the way at once she is needlessly doubling the albiet low level of suffering.

YABU her kids, her choice

At least her children are vaccinated.

I don’t think this is worthy of judging your friend over.

She had her child vaccinated. That was surely good?

She did it in the way she thought best for their health

My DD died 1 week after having her 1st immunisations. My next 2 DC both had all their immunisations split including the 1st MMR this was on the suggestion of my health visitor, GP and my DC's consultant peaditrition they were both under a consultant for the 1st year of their lives due to their sisters death.

For a long time I was terrified that the immunisations helped cause my DD's death it didn't, but for my 2 other DC and me splitting their immunisations was the best thing for us especially as the 1st DC was premature.

Should I have refused all immunisations for them or split them on the advice of several health professionals? I listened to the health professionals involved in my DC's care

The children were vaccinated. That's the important thing.

Vaccination appointments are literally all of 5 minutes long, if that. I don't think it's an outrageous waste of nhs time.

No vaccinations that cause illness outbreaks and missed appointments are a lot worse.