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To ask DD teacher for holiday permission after rejection?

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iHW · 06/06/2023 18:17

Would I be unreasonable to ask DD's teacher how much of an impact it would have if I were to take her on holiday that has been rejected by the head?

DD is 5 almost 6, in year 1. Doing well in all subjects and ahead in some subjects. Has had 1 week off in Feb for strep A other than that perfect attendance.

Would it be worth asking her teacher directly if he feels it would have a negative impact on her and reduce the length of the holiday (camping with family) or take her for the week as planned?

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onlyamam · 06/06/2023 18:19

Teacher here - I would say just do it. If her attendance is otherwise good I can't see it having much impact.

RaisinsAreTheWorkOfTheDevil · 06/06/2023 18:21

Do you mean you have been notified it will be ‘unauthorised’. As far as I’m aware they can’t stop you taking your child on holiday term time they just tell you it’s unauthorised, but also the teacher would not be able to override the decision of the Head teacher. Just take her, but factor in that you might be fined, though I don’t know anyone who has been fined for taking term time holidays.

SomersetBrie · 06/06/2023 18:21

I wouldn't put a teacher in a position where they had to possibly disagree with the head.

The head (or maybe the LEA) have to refuse all holiday, just decide yourself if you think it's worth it and go (or don't go). In your case, I would probably go.

Magenta82 · 06/06/2023 18:22

You would be putting him in a very difficult position and expecting him to go against his employer whose position is that the absence would be detrimental to your daughter's education.

Just take the time off, pay the fine if you have to, but don't ask the teacher.

spongebunnyfatpants · 06/06/2023 18:22

All holidays are rejected, because its the rules of the local authorities. The head has to follow the guidance, so couldn't authorise it, even if they wanted too.
Just because it's not been authorised, doesn't mean you can't still go on holiday, it just means that you'll probably be fined.

Brendabigbaps · 06/06/2023 18:22

the teacher will follow the schools policy and you will be told it will impact them immensely!
it won’t! just do some phonics are writing practice with her each day if it makes you feel less guilty.
don’t ask again, just do it, you’ll get a snotty letter but they can’t stop you.

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 06/06/2023 18:22

Holidays will never be authorised. You just take them and pay the fine. I wouldn't bother speaking to the teacher, no-one can authorise a holiday anymore, doesn't mean you can't takr them

DappledThings · 06/06/2023 18:23

They have to reject don't they? As in they have to say it is unauthorised because it is. Whether it leads to a fine or not is not the decision of the head or her class teacher either. Whether the teacher thinks it's a good idea or not doesn't change the decision.

Theimpossiblegirl · 06/06/2023 18:23

The teacher won't be allowed to voice an opinion on this, they can just repeat the rules. Please don't put them in a difficult position by asking.

ThanksItHasPockets · 06/06/2023 18:23

The headteacher can’t authorise the leave, even if they want to. I’m afraid speaking to the teacher will make no difference.

Lkgcsr · 06/06/2023 18:23

In what way rejected? We fill in a form and it goes down as unauthorised but as my DD has good attendance generally it really has no impact if it’s authorised or not. I’m not sure it’s fair to put her teacher in a position of disagreeing with her boss; I’m sure you can make an informed judgement of how much it will impact her balanced with the benefits

Remotecontrolatmyside · 06/06/2023 18:24

So you're expecting a teacher to go against their boss, against school policy and against their governing body decisions. If it got found out that they openly agreed with you, they could face disciplinary so you'd be really unfair to put them in that position. If you want to go on the holiday, by all means go. It's your child and your family. But do not put someone else on that awkward situation.

Sirzy · 06/06/2023 18:24

Teacher will still officially follow the “no authorised holidays” route. They can’t authorise them anyway as it’s not up to them how things are coded.

if you want to go go, just know it will coded unauthorised and you may face a fine

DancedByTheLightOfTheMoon · 06/06/2023 18:24

Just take her OP, my son lost out on so much school due to an anxiety disorder, He still passed all his exams with flying colours . He hasn't been in school for past four years as self taught and just sat his A levels.

Roselilly36 · 06/06/2023 18:25

Yes, just take her out, if she is missing 5 days ie 10 sessions of learning you will more than likely be fined, the fine is per parent, per child. I wouldn’t mention it to the teacher, it’s a bit unfair to ask her when the school has denied permission, which is standard practice. But she is your child, and it’s your call. I can only speak from my experience, we took a term time holiday on occasions. We just made sure they didn’t miss 10 sessions so we avoided the fine, and our holiday was still much cheaper. She’s 5 it isn’t going to destroy her education is it?

BelindaBears · 06/06/2023 18:25

Don’t get the teacher involved you’d be putting them in a really difficult position. If you want to do it just own it and do it. Schools won’t authorise holiday but there are also no drastic consequences if your child’s attendance is very good and it’s genuinely only one week.

VisionsOfSplendour · 06/06/2023 18:26

The school can't stop you going on holiday, it's not up to the teacher to get involved.,

You make your own judgement on the effect on your child and own your decision

Fandabedodgy · 06/06/2023 18:26

Just go.

She's young enough not to be impacted.

It's not fair to ask the teacher.

NancyDrooo · 06/06/2023 18:28

We took our children out of school for a week every single year throughout primary school, though I’d have had second thoughts if they had low attendance or were struggling academically. Enjoyed our cheaper holidays very much, thanks!

NoSquirrels · 06/06/2023 18:31

Don’t ask. Just make your own decision based on how you know your child.

StripyHorse · 06/06/2023 18:33

YABU to ask the teacher when the holiday has been rejected.

You are not U to take a y1 child on holiday in the last half term of the year.

Bethany7 · 06/06/2023 18:35

Teacher here.
It wont have a big impact although I also wouldn't ask the teacher as it's putting them in a tricky position. Just go and enjoy your holiday!

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 06/06/2023 18:36

Often they only fine for ten sessions (one week) or more so if the fine is an issue then just go Tuesday to Sunday and you will probably be ok.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/06/2023 18:37

Yabu to put the teacher in that position. The school has not authorised the holiday, so it doesn't really matter what the teacher thinks. Either they will agree that it shouldn't be authorised or they will find it hard to say that they disagree because that's the head teacher's decision.

Just take your dd out of school if that's what you want to do. Worst case scenario is that they will fine you, and that might happen even if you have the teacher's blessing.

DanceMonster · 06/06/2023 18:37

What do you mean by rejected? They can’t prevent you from going, so do you mean it’s an unauthorised absence? We’ve just been away abroad for a family wedding, missing 3 days of school. It was unauthorised, but we still went.

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