Lockdown report/Covid enquiry - if you supported lockdown do you regret it?

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I haven’t seen a thread on this so sorry if it has been done. In light of the report yesterday I wander if people have changed their minds on whether lockdown was a good idea. I remember the threads of utter lunacy on here and the mask hysteria/schools debate. I was against lockdowns and masks very early on but complied - I don’t think I’d ever do it again. I genuinely think it was a massive overreaction which has damaged things in this country irreparably and left many children and adults far worse off than they were pre covid.

Privilege is watching this and still moaning

I was always against it once we’d done the first lockdown. At the very beginning I was just so in shock I didn’t have time to process what was happening but as the months ran by I got more and more disillusioned and angry at the way this was being treated. I knew probably two other people in my whole family and friendship circle who shared my opinion. Anyone else was pretty appalled that I thought that way and I really feared losing friends over it. Sadly I learned to keep my mouth shut around those that I knew didn’t share the same opinion. I always wondered if there would be a backlash later down the line.

You are absolutely right. And I think most people agree that pre-existing conditions shouldn’t have encouraged some to think ‘so because it doesn’t affect us we don’t need to put ourselves out in any way’. Any premature death is a tragedy, whatever the pre-existing condition or age of the person (which was another common comment).

I’m so glad that you and your ds are ok.

It was sooooo obvious that people were not dropping dead like flies in the streets. And the deleting of the numbers was just scaremongering. Really it was quite easy to spot how fake it all was and yet the country went nuts.

It's pretty hard not to patronise someone who doesn't understand what the word Anglosphere means, in my defence.

Ultimately, you made the claim that the left tended to go harder and you've failed to back that up. Continually. No amount of stupid questions is going to change that, and the latest one certainly doesn't.

Your choices are to either provide proof for your claim that the left tended to go harder than the right, not the left and right in a small minority of the world but the left and right per se, or continue to have it pointed out that you haven't. Those are the only options available.

You called people weak and said you didn't care whereas your friend was scared, it was a direct response to that.

And I'd say the same thing if you visited a vulnerable person when you had the flu...which I'd imagine you do because death doesn't 'offend' you (such a weird thing to say).

You offend me so I won't be replying to anything else. Enjoy the rest of your day.

Privilege is pretending that deaths from covid somehow mean deaths from poverty and inequality can be airily dismissed with a 'finances can be addressed'.

I will say though @SunnyEgg that I fully agree on one point, which is that we'd have all benefitted from both the left and the right in the UK doing a better job at articulating the risks and downsides of lockdown. We never really had a societal discussion about how it was a choice between one shit sandwich or another, and that probably needed mainstream political participation from both sides. Which wasn't happening until pretty late in the day.

In the UK.. Where I live, where government impacts me. Not other countries you mention where they don’t

It’s not a stupid question maybe you have a point.. if you could evidence it then great

If it’s just your questions are stupid, ie too direct for you to answer well whatever really. We’ll never get the logic from the U.K. left on why not.

Maybe that evidence and logic just isn’t there.

Following science isn't wrong. But that's not what happened!

Lockdown was late - why delay when the science showed otherwise.

Subsequently it went on for too long.

Actual Mental health issues were secondary to potential physical health.

We weren't asked to wear masks to begin with- not because of science, but because they weren't readily available.

There was no 'bubbles' to start with. People struggled massively with isolation and lack of support.

It's safe to say it wasn't good for kids at all.

But...if a new virus came along threatening the life of my newborn baby or elderly parent, I'd be cautious again.

Perhaps not exactly the same. Some bits seem absolutely barmy. Only one walk a day?? Who is it hurting to have two walks, or even 5. As long as you're not kissing randoms while you're out.

Staying away from others if you're ill. Good idea!

Isolating because you were within 2 meters of someone, potentially in the next train carriage, both masked, who may or may not have had covid at the time. Don't think I'd be following that rubbish again!!

I bought it until the raging contradictions started.

X post I’ll retract my last one and end it on a higher point

See not too far off

I dislike that the questioning was deemed ‘far right’

I can see from your other posts you do care about the damage too, so maybe if we’d not felt abandoned from left and right on that it would have been better

Absolutely agree.

My relative died of covid which they caught in hospital, having shielded for months and resisted going into hospital because of covid.

They caught covid on the ward. They weren’t informed that they had tested positive until day 2, and not moved from the surgical ward until day 4, because the covid wards were all full. So likely infected others.

They died on day 5. On day 4 their spouse was allowed 15 mins visiting. There was no PPE to give visiting spouse so they just had a regular mask. They were immunocompromised. It was that or not see dying spouse.

Infection control wouldn’t allow family member’s children to visit at end of life. Or see them afterwards. They had had no visitors for their last month of life and covid was spreading like wildfire around the hospital with new cases popping up faster than they could be isolated.

Imagine how much worse that would have been without slowing the spread by locking down.

Yes, the way in which questions were pigeon holed as far right was bad for all of us too. There was in fact left wing criticism of lockdown in the UK right from the start, but people didn't want to hear it.

Pretty hard to come back from death. Finances and mental health can be addressed.

When will the finances and mental health be addressed then? Because 3 years on and nothing has improved. People lost a lot, and there is no end in sight. The NHS is still floundering, there is so little help for mental health is laughable.
Inflation, cost of living, interest rates are all spiralling.
I'm not saying it's all down to lockdown, but it certainly contributed.

Seeing the long term impact and devastation caused by coronavirus, (and I don’t mean from the virus itself) I would never conform to such control and nonsense again. Absolute despicable behaviour from our country leaders

I feel for all those terrified people, that genuinely believed they might drop dead if they set foot outside their own front door.
Whatever the true reason behind the lockdown was, I don’t believe for one second it was to save lives or protect the NHS.

While this is all correct, it's not at all relevant to the fact that poverty causes inequality and the existence of covid deaths in India didn't alter that.

Yes, the way in which questions were pigeon holed as far right was bad for all of us too.

Agreed. There were quite a few posts on here in 2020-2021 which suggested that anyone posting in favour of schools reopening must be a far right bot/plant. Properly mad.

Or being ok to go to the pub as long as you had food - a substantial meal - which resulted in those ludicrous discussions about sausage rolls ffs

And how you could sit down in a bar or restaurant with 200 other people massless but if you walked outside to the empty foyer to take a phone call - you had to wear a mask despite there not being anyone else within 50 feet of you

Could you link to a peer reviewed document confirming the heart problems in younger people following the vaccine link?

That show irrefutably it's more than the undisputed link between COVID infection and myocarditis etc.

Or being ok to go to the pub as long as you had food - a substantial meal - which resulted in those ludicrous discussions about sausage rolls ffs

That one was deranged regardless of where one stands on lockdown.

PS here's the official guidance regarding vaccines and pregnancy. Still very much recommended.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-women-of-childbearing-age-currently-pregnant-planning-a-pregnancy-or-breastfeeding/covid-19-vaccination-a-guide-on-pregnancy-and-breastfeeding#:~:text=You%20should%20have%20your%20booster,after%20you%20have%20given%20birth.

Maybe stop lying?