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To think you don’t just get chicken pox on your bum

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LittleMG · 03/06/2023 22:19

On Thursday I thought my 4 year is Ds had an insect bite on his upper thigh. Yesterday he had a few on his bum so I thought a gnat had really gone to town on him. Today his bum is really covered especially around the actual bum hole (sorry TMI) and a couple on inner thigh. He’s totally not bothered and absolutely himself. I took him to the pharmacist and he said chicken pox and I agree it does look like that. But after 2 days surely it wouldn’t just be all over his bum but nowhere else? Surely? Any ideas?? I won’t post a picture because, well, it’s his bum but it honestly looks like chicken pox. Just no other symptoms and only on the bum!!

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maidmarianne · 04/06/2023 09:58

When my ds had chicken pox (only about 3 years ago), we called the gp for an appointment and when we arrived we were put into a spare consulting room so we weren't spreading it in reception, and then the gp came into us so we were the only ones using it that day. So there are protocols to try to reduce the spread while still getting medical attention.
It's crap having a compromised immune system and knowing that any slight illness you pick up could be really serious.
I am surprised you took someone with chicken pox into a pharmacy, also more surprised that the pharmacist didn't say anything or take you into a private space immediately.
I know that's not the point of this thread, but if we could learn one thing from covid, maybe it could be to take more care about other people's health.

KimberleyClark · 04/06/2023 10:02

I got impetigo as a child but only two or threw blisters on my bum.

LittleMG · 04/06/2023 13:27

Right so for those of you annoyed that I took my son to a pharmacist to get them to look at a rash. AT THE TIME OF
THE INITIAL rash appearance I didn’t know what it was I didn’t think chicken pox really as I have said it was only on the bum area. I don’t think anyone was out at risk they weren’t pregnant in the pharmacy as both of them were men and I would hope if they we’re immune suppressed they wouldn’t work somewhere with sick people?? We then went to the drive through for an ice cream and no bum spots were exposed at that time.
As a side note he’s better this morning couple of marks round his mouth so I reckon the ones that said hand, foot and mouth were right but on the whole less angry looking on the bum.

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jannier · 05/06/2023 08:47

Carryonkeepinggoing · 04/06/2023 08:32

I know public health policy for chicken pox is different in England. And that it can cause complications. My point was that strict isolation isn’t the obvious way to deal with chicken pox cases, because if it was there would be consensus between countries health care policies, and there isn’t. It’s a balance of risks on a population level. And choosing not to isolate young children with chicken pox won’t be a stand-alone policy. It will also affect treatment and advice for people who could be vulnerable to complications or severe cases - I’m fairly sure that in France they check if you’re immune to chicken pox with a blood test as soon as you know you’re pregnant, for example.

What are people with illnesses like cancer, arthritis, COPD, transplant recipients, dialysis patients etc advised to do permanently live in isolation?
There are children who have died through CP complications who had no underlying conditions it seems strange to say sod everyone else for the sake of around 5 days isolation for 1 child .....or do they routinely have the vaccine?

Thepleasureofyourcompany · 05/06/2023 08:50

Whatthespotarethese · 04/06/2023 00:35

Op my Dd has just had folliculitis in her bikini area, it looked just like chicken pox but she wasn’t ill. I had no clue what it was in til I posted on here. Has your son been in a pool in swimming trunks?

This happened to ours after going in a hot tub.

Carryonkeepinggoing · 05/06/2023 09:57

jannier · 05/06/2023 08:47

What are people with illnesses like cancer, arthritis, COPD, transplant recipients, dialysis patients etc advised to do permanently live in isolation?
There are children who have died through CP complications who had no underlying conditions it seems strange to say sod everyone else for the sake of around 5 days isolation for 1 child .....or do they routinely have the vaccine?

I don’t know exactly what people with reduced immunity are told or whether they are routinely offered the CP vaccine in France because I am neither a health care provider nor someone with reduced immunity. It would not surprise me if they offered the vaccine. I do known that children with chickenpox are allowed to continue to attend nursery and preschool but that the head teacher can ask you not to bring your child in if there is someone particularly vulnerable in the class.
And just because children are allowed in school with chicken pox, it doesn’t mean they would be welcomed everywhere. I’m sure a maternity ward or a dialysis centre would not allow you to bring your spotty child in.
I believe that part of the reason for not keeping children with CP off school is also to do with the fact that they very contagious just before all the spots appear, when you don’t even know they have chicken pox yet. So asking all children with active spots to stay away involves a lot of time off school for potentially little benefit in terms of transmission reduction in the classroom. This is definitely why they no longer require preschoolers with hand foot and mouth to isolate - the contagious period for HFM begins well before symptoms start and continues long after the illness has subsided.
I also don’t know at what point the rule changes. I haven’t come across this scenario in secondary schools for example.

WhisperingAutistic · 05/06/2023 16:52

jannier · 05/06/2023 08:47

What are people with illnesses like cancer, arthritis, COPD, transplant recipients, dialysis patients etc advised to do permanently live in isolation?
There are children who have died through CP complications who had no underlying conditions it seems strange to say sod everyone else for the sake of around 5 days isolation for 1 child .....or do they routinely have the vaccine?

The chicken pox vaccine is a 'live' vaccine so immunosuppressed people generally cannot have it. My son has a transplant and cannot.

jannier · 05/06/2023 20:36

WhisperingAutistic · 05/06/2023 16:52

The chicken pox vaccine is a 'live' vaccine so immunosuppressed people generally cannot have it. My son has a transplant and cannot.

I know.....I'm asking if the children in general are given it reducing the amount circulating.

WhisperingAutistic · 05/06/2023 20:41

jannier · 05/06/2023 20:36

I know.....I'm asking if the children in general are given it reducing the amount circulating.

OK, sorry. I must have read your post incorrectly

jannier · 05/06/2023 20:44

Carryonkeepinggoing · 05/06/2023 09:57

I don’t know exactly what people with reduced immunity are told or whether they are routinely offered the CP vaccine in France because I am neither a health care provider nor someone with reduced immunity. It would not surprise me if they offered the vaccine. I do known that children with chickenpox are allowed to continue to attend nursery and preschool but that the head teacher can ask you not to bring your child in if there is someone particularly vulnerable in the class.
And just because children are allowed in school with chicken pox, it doesn’t mean they would be welcomed everywhere. I’m sure a maternity ward or a dialysis centre would not allow you to bring your spotty child in.
I believe that part of the reason for not keeping children with CP off school is also to do with the fact that they very contagious just before all the spots appear, when you don’t even know they have chicken pox yet. So asking all children with active spots to stay away involves a lot of time off school for potentially little benefit in terms of transmission reduction in the classroom. This is definitely why they no longer require preschoolers with hand foot and mouth to isolate - the contagious period for HFM begins well before symptoms start and continues long after the illness has subsided.
I also don’t know at what point the rule changes. I haven’t come across this scenario in secondary schools for example.

Having just looked further it seems that the decision to not isolate was based on the financial costs to the economy of parents taking time off for sick children. Not on what is best for health.

Houseofpainjumparound · 05/06/2023 20:52

A few weeks ago my DC was sent home from school with suspected pox. I wasn't convinced, spots isolated to leg (around sore on knee) one side, under arm and a few else where. Also had the pox 7 months ago.

Took them to the docs who ruled out pox and hand/foot. Decided something had feasted on their poor body. No other symptoms and the spots didn't spread, also not the clear pus ones you get with pox

Seems to be alot of bitey things at the moment.

Hope your child is doing better

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