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Creep at work staring me up and down, looking at my breasts I don't know how to handle this.

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justwanttoheal · 02/06/2023 20:24

We're I work is fucking toxic at the best of times. Manipulative men running the show. I'm an assistant manager to the depot. There is the main general manager and then my self and another male colleague who is on the same level as me.

The industry I work in is very male oriented I have had to fight to get the senior role I'm in.

My boss is up and down he goes in to moods we're he's off with me I don't no what I've done wrong and he gives me silent treatment. Then he's fine. I can't take that as it is.

But now this guy who is on the same level as me. He's either trying to compete with me, he's overly touchy feel like grabs my shoulder and pats my arm. And when he walks up to me he looks me up and down then Blatantly stairs at my chest.

Today I was kind to some one and he turned around and said your too soft. ( no I was being human)

Before you all say get out I am I am currently frantically looking for a job.

My previous boss was an out right narcissist and he used and abused me it's took me months to begin healing from that and the new General manager is a different type of toxic on top of the other creep starring at my chest I'm at a loss what to do.

I feel like going on the sick and never going back

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DelphiniumBlue · 04/06/2023 17:06

I would email your manager with details every time this happens. So when you do walk out/raise a grievance/file a claim against the company they cannot say they did not know this was happening. It is managements job to deal with this. You do not have to say anything to the creep doing it , it is for your manager to take appropriate steps.
An email chain makes it seem more formal, and is a handy record.
Verbal complaints aren't treated so seriously.
If there is an HR department, copy them in.

splitz80 · 04/06/2023 18:57

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justwanttoheal · 04/06/2023 19:07

I'm not stuck at all, it makes me feel uncomfortable. No not all male colleagues do it and if they do they are certainly not that obvious!

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ArcaneWireless · 04/06/2023 19:08

Jesus…

Anyway

Don't touch me/stop staring at my breasts/don't talk down to me, I don't like it and it's not appropriate to the workplace".

This and HR/manager. Every time it happens. Loud as you can.

We had someone who used to come up from behind us and sniff our hair while pressing his jewels into our backsides. Creepy shite.

Way more senior than the junior ranks we were and he had a reputation for making life very difficult for anyone who complained.

He did it to me one day and the SWO saw him.

He didn’t do it again.

I wish the mouth I have now was on my 19 year old self.

newtb · 04/06/2023 19:12

Someone used to trespass on my time - just 5 minutes would be 30 etc. I started folding my arms when talking, and hé started to press down on my arm with his hand for emphasis. Thoroughly pissed off with him one day, I asked him very coldly if before touching me again could he please get written permission from both my parents.

He shot backwards like a scalded cat. He used to do it to a colleague too. He never did it to either of us again.

Might work.

MmePoppySeedDefage · 04/06/2023 19:15

I think splitz is a man. Best to ignore, after your good reply, OP.

WakeMeUpWhenGoodOmensIsBack · 04/06/2023 19:17

Are there other women you can talk to to see whether they have similar complaints?

I don't doubt you for a minute, and he sounds vile, but "looking at my breasts" could be trickier to pin on him given that you're in a generally sexist environment. It could get very nasty. Much easier if there are five of you all saying "Dave makes me feel very uncomfortable in the way he behaves".

justwanttoheal · 04/06/2023 19:18

@MmePoppySeedDefage

Yeah I thought the same a very shitty comment. He's probably an issue if he has a job

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justwanttoheal · 04/06/2023 19:46

@WakeMeUpWhenGoodOmensIsBack

I'm not sure if he does, I would hope if he did members of staff would come to me. There is our General manager and then myself and him.

The rest of the employees are working on the operational side of things he seems to do it when I start a conversation.

This is why I haven't really done any thing I had a female member of staff complain about a perv employee saying inappropriate things to her. I took it to HR and he was sacked. I would defend any one of the employees if they were having these type of issues or bullying when it's your self I feel like if I complain I will be less respected. It's hard to explain

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mellicauli · 04/06/2023 19:58

You are absolutely right that it's easier when it's not your own complaint.

I wonder if you could use one of your female co workers to back you up. So say I don't know if I am going mad but I feel like he's not being appropriate. Can you keep an eye out when he's talking to me and see what you think? Send it as an email chain so you have proof you did not prompt her into what to say.

If she agrees , ask her (without prompting) to say what she thought was happening.

Then when you go to management with your complaint you can say I wasn't 100% sure and I asked x to observe to see what she thought and she agreed he was definitely staring at breasts / touching in a creepy manner etc.

loveisstrange · 04/06/2023 20:22

Complain to management or hr. If they have an anonymous number to call do it. It will be taken seriously

Irridescantshimmmer · 04/06/2023 20:34

Ewww sounds very toxic.

Log every incident, dates, times, details of incidents then contact HR who should be able to raise a grievance.

Are you in an union?

If not then join one, just in case they try to manage you out as none of us know what they are capable of.

Another thing you can do is have a look on the acas site

https://www.acas.org.uk/

It seems like you have been on the recieving end of bullying and sexual harassment and don't go suffering in silence, get help.

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