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School should have optional school coat, fleeces and more

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Schooldinners1 · 28/05/2023 17:18

We are moving this summer to a new area so new schools.

Our current school has opinions of school branded cardigan, jumpers, fleeces, a school coat, backpack and other bits.

You can wear your own coat though that's fine.

The new school doesn't have all these options to make it “accessible for all” and you can also wear supermarket options.

Is it only me who finds it really smart to have all the matching options, I love my kids in them currently. I don't know why they can't just start making them for those of us happy to purchase these.

I saw they currently have the fleeces for teachers and their staff. Surely they can make miniature versions for the kids.

They're not compulsory to buy but parents can if they want. Those who don't want to/struggle to afford aren't required.

OP posts:
CabernetSauvignon · 29/05/2023 15:30

SummerDuck · 29/05/2023 15:26

I have to say the DC’s state school has a very strict uniform which includes compulsory logo coats and bags. It works very well as all DC look smart and there is no brand competition.

It’s great having all students look identical- they have a reversible cagoule for winter, a lighter raincoat and then a fleece jacket for summer. I don’t get the argument about cosy- most parents here were previously buying expensive branded coats whereas the school ones are available for less than £30.

It is strictly enforced and DC who don’t comply will be placed in detention.

What about the parents who can't afford an expensive coat or even a second coat? Are their children condemned to wearing school coats everywhere?

PuttingDownRoots · 29/05/2023 15:33

SummerDuck · 29/05/2023 15:26

I have to say the DC’s state school has a very strict uniform which includes compulsory logo coats and bags. It works very well as all DC look smart and there is no brand competition.

It’s great having all students look identical- they have a reversible cagoule for winter, a lighter raincoat and then a fleece jacket for summer. I don’t get the argument about cosy- most parents here were previously buying expensive branded coats whereas the school ones are available for less than £30.

It is strictly enforced and DC who don’t comply will be placed in detention.

Pretty sure thats against Government guidelines now!!

Starlightstarbright1 · 29/05/2023 15:37

OverCCCs · 28/05/2023 22:45

Agreed with your last point. Some of OP’s comments are borderline disturbing and gross. School uniforms aren’t meant to make children look appealing to the eyes or cater to whatever creepy old-fashioned uniform fetish people like OP have going on. Ick.

I’m 100% opposed to uniform coats, anyways, especially since they often aren’t weather appropriate and are in dark colours that don’t let the wearers stand out when walking outside in the dark.

I agree - my Ds goes to a none uniform secondary - I spend less on clothing in total - I don’t buy school shoes - he has trainers , joggers , t shirts are all used during the weekends / holidays . He doesn’t care what he wears nor do his peers.

SummerDuck · 29/05/2023 15:38

@CabernetSauvignon

School coats can be worn outside of school if necessary

Parker231 · 29/05/2023 15:43

Starlightstarbright1 · 29/05/2023 15:37

I agree - my Ds goes to a none uniform secondary - I spend less on clothing in total - I don’t buy school shoes - he has trainers , joggers , t shirts are all used during the weekends / holidays . He doesn’t care what he wears nor do his peers.

Same with my DT’s - they’ve never worn a school uniform. Have never bought a branded school bag either. Saved a fortune and their every day clothes are much more practical than school uniforms.

Createausername1970 · 29/05/2023 16:17

The primary DS went to wanted logos on the jumpers/cardigans. But as long as the colours were followed, uniform could be bought anywhere.

They sold logo stitch-ons (like the badges at cubs) for a few pounds. So parents could buy a stitch on logo in reception and just transfer it to new jumpers as the child grew or replace for a few pounds when it was beyond redemption.

SummerDuck · 29/05/2023 17:03

@Parker231

I’d be very surprised if any school allowed DC to remove blazers without permission. At the DC’s school, they are worn at all times and individual teachers can give permission to remove if a room is exceptionally warm, which is fair and works well.

Parker231 · 29/05/2023 17:09

SummerDuck · 29/05/2023 17:03

@Parker231

I’d be very surprised if any school allowed DC to remove blazers without permission. At the DC’s school, they are worn at all times and individual teachers can give permission to remove if a room is exceptionally warm, which is fair and works well.

I’ve seen your posts on this topic under another name. Makes me very pleased that DT’s school had no uniform and didn’t waste education time policing stupid rules.

lailamaria · 29/05/2023 17:51

clothing their kids is fine, clothing them in useless fleeces and checked skirts when they can just wear regular coats and asda skirts is what they're talking about, you sound like a rate snob and unfortunately your daughter will probably get bullied

Parker231 · 29/05/2023 18:01

Tried to find out the history of school uniforms and why does the uk have them when so many other countries don’t. In modern Europe, Britain, Malta and Ireland stand out as the only countries where school uniform is widely adopted by state schools. Apparently it was introduced to improve discipline - has failed there!

CabernetSauvignon · 30/05/2023 08:05

SummerDuck · 29/05/2023 15:38

@CabernetSauvignon

School coats can be worn outside of school if necessary

And how many children are going to want to wear them outside school? Plus they're usually not that practical, so unsuitable for wear in playgrounds etc.

CabernetSauvignon · 30/05/2023 08:07

SummerDuck · 29/05/2023 17:03

@Parker231

I’d be very surprised if any school allowed DC to remove blazers without permission. At the DC’s school, they are worn at all times and individual teachers can give permission to remove if a room is exceptionally warm, which is fair and works well.

All the more sensible schools allow children to make their own decisions about whether to wear a blazer in class or not. It's ludicrous that children have to sit frowsting and sweating in unbreathable polyester until a teacher in a cotton dress or shirtsleeves decides to let them take the blazer off.

Fandabedodgy · 30/05/2023 08:14

Good for the new school.

Much more inclusive

It's still a uniform but not one that will cause financial hardship.

Why would you want to cause division between the haves and the have nots?

Parker231 · 30/05/2023 08:29

CabernetSauvignon · 30/05/2023 08:07

All the more sensible schools allow children to make their own decisions about whether to wear a blazer in class or not. It's ludicrous that children have to sit frowsting and sweating in unbreathable polyester until a teacher in a cotton dress or shirtsleeves decides to let them take the blazer off.

I’ve never understood the point of a blazer - they look ridiculous and not practical as a hoodie is.
Can’t imagine asking whether I could take off a layer of clothing - if I’m hot I take it off - person next to me might feel cold and put on an extra layer.

whatkatydid2013 · 30/05/2023 08:51

SummerDuck · 29/05/2023 15:26

I have to say the DC’s state school has a very strict uniform which includes compulsory logo coats and bags. It works very well as all DC look smart and there is no brand competition.

It’s great having all students look identical- they have a reversible cagoule for winter, a lighter raincoat and then a fleece jacket for summer. I don’t get the argument about cosy- most parents here were previously buying expensive branded coats whereas the school ones are available for less than £30.

It is strictly enforced and DC who don’t comply will be placed in detention.

If you aren’t desperately short of money you’ll often already buy your kids coats for various scenarios. My daughters both have a warm winter coat, several fleeces & a breathable wind/water proof jacket. All are in light colours &/or include sections of reflective material as we walk/cycle around locally a lot and it’s good for them to be as visible as possible. They use them for school and for going out at weekends and for cubs/beavers and for going to various outdoor holiday club activities and we usually then pass on to a friend.

If the school had a uniform coat I would most likely still need to buy all of the above and on top of that buy the less than £30 school coat, which based on the school branded bags/hoodies would be moderate quality.

I don’t understand how it’s cheaper to buy the school coat unless you are saying you have your kids wearing a school logo coat all the time?

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