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AIBU to beg for no more balloon releases

286 replies

Newspeaker · 27/05/2023 08:49

Why is it that at the times of the worst tragedy so many people still think it is OK to release dangerous litter into the sky? Surely in every group who plan these events there will be at least one person who understands the implications and can push for an alternative?
That's it really. Don't tell me people need to grieve - there are plenty of other ways to signal your grief, if you feel the need to do that. Does anyone want the memorial to their loved one be tainted by - just one real life example - a dead donkey foal with a balloon and the string in her gut? It seems particularly ironic that our young people can be so vocal about environmental issues, and yet they still flock to buy the balloons and take part in these releases.
It just breaks my heart to see this, knowing that the odds are some animals will suffer or die from our thoughtlessness, and yet again the land will be littered.

Any time someone posts about this they get accused of bad timing and insensitivity. Caring about our environment and feeling deep sadness for tragic losses aren't mutually exclusive. We have to find some time to speak up, because however much we do, it still happens.

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WhiteFire · 27/05/2023 17:37

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 27/05/2023 15:15

Re. roadside memorials - perhaps people could plant something, rather than leaving cut flowers or cuddly toys? Scatter wildflower seeds, maybe, or plant something like snowdrops so they will come up every year, instead of lasting only a short time before they rot.

I do understand why people want to do something in memory of a loved one - I lost my mum in March - but there are things people can do that won’t damage the environment or hurt animals, and will have a positive impact - encouraging bees, for example, or planting more trees that help clean the air.

One of the many accident sites I pass regularly has had daffodils planted. It is a lovely display each year.

Newspeaker · 27/05/2023 17:40

LovelyLovelyWarmCoffee · 27/05/2023 13:34

It's OK to target one thing at a time. This time it's balloon releases
Fair enough.
I hope I am wrong but when reading threads like this I often wonder if all the posters agreeing are blameless themselves. Easy to criticize grieving people for releasing ballons and then taking your car for the school run and waiting there idling because you ‘need’ the heating or radio on.
Hopefully I’m wrong (genuinely, not being sarcastic!)

There isn't one person here who can be "blameless" but we can all do our best. School runs don't feature in my life but I don't sit with an idling engine for long periods of time. My car switches itself off actually, which was a feature I wanted. I walk or ride my horse (LOL!) to the village for shopping and have also ridden my horses to the pub. I have concerns about fully electric cars, but I've got reasonably sensible vehicles that meet the London Mayor's emissions criteria. I do a lot of "local shopping" and we eat a lot of home-grown produce. In saying that I think it's fair to acknowledge privilege. I'm in the very fortunate position of having been able buy new cars, and to buy more expensive local and more ethical products. It's not so easy to care for the environment when living hand to mouth - I know, I've been there.

The thing about balloon releases, and Chinese lanterns for that matter, is that they are so obviously stupid things to do, potentially cause so much harm, and it's so easy to just not do them or take part in them. Once someone is aware of how completely shit they are they might at least be able to influence others not to organise them. Wrestling with planet-wide issues isn't quite so simple.

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CoffeeCantata · 27/05/2023 17:44

I agree, OP. It's so depressing.

Apart from the environmental risk I find all the balloons and plastic-covered bouquets very performative. There ARE other ways to grieve, as you say. A candle-lit vigil or collection for charity instead of all the flowers. But it has to be a big performance.

Zebedee55 · 27/05/2023 17:46

We never used to have all this attention seeking nonsense. Balloons and lanterns released harm wildlife and litter the countryside...why do it?

What sort of halfwit thinks that's good?

If you want to remember someone, just say a prayer, give a speech or sing a song.🙄

Whatt · 27/05/2023 17:46

I understand roadside memorials.
There is one near Wembley Ikea, at a big crossing. There is a picture of a boy in laminated plastic. It has definitely made me think twice about quickly running across the second crossing. Its also a good deterrent for other children my own included.

TheLifeThatCouldHaveBeen · 27/05/2023 17:48

Chasingadvice · 27/05/2023 08:59

I don't like them either but begging on mumsnet isn't going to do anything.

No, it is going to do something. It's not something I've ever much thought about or planned to do but now I know to definitely never do it or support it. Thanks op for raising awareness about this.

Newspeaker · 27/05/2023 17:49

Whowhatwherewhenwhy1 · 27/05/2023 14:37

Beg all you like but people will still do it. Why not spend your time campaigning for or researching biodegrade-able options as if people knew about them Or they were widely available they may be persuaded to use the safer more environmentally friendly options in future.

There are loads of suggestions for environmentally safe ways to celebrate a life or mourn a loss on this thread. No need for loads of research to be done.
It's a shame people don't have the intelligence and conscience to stop using these products without having someone offer them options on a plate. But I guess it's very hard to change stupid.

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Sorryyoufeelthatwayy · 27/05/2023 17:55

This country is full of entitled, brain dead, uneducated morons, so good luck stopping them doing whatever they like, when they like.

LovelyLovelyWarmCoffee · 27/05/2023 17:56

Newspeaker · 27/05/2023 17:40

There isn't one person here who can be "blameless" but we can all do our best. School runs don't feature in my life but I don't sit with an idling engine for long periods of time. My car switches itself off actually, which was a feature I wanted. I walk or ride my horse (LOL!) to the village for shopping and have also ridden my horses to the pub. I have concerns about fully electric cars, but I've got reasonably sensible vehicles that meet the London Mayor's emissions criteria. I do a lot of "local shopping" and we eat a lot of home-grown produce. In saying that I think it's fair to acknowledge privilege. I'm in the very fortunate position of having been able buy new cars, and to buy more expensive local and more ethical products. It's not so easy to care for the environment when living hand to mouth - I know, I've been there.

The thing about balloon releases, and Chinese lanterns for that matter, is that they are so obviously stupid things to do, potentially cause so much harm, and it's so easy to just not do them or take part in them. Once someone is aware of how completely shit they are they might at least be able to influence others not to organise them. Wrestling with planet-wide issues isn't quite so simple.

Good point. It’s true that this is something that is damaging but we could definitely live without.

Could spreading wildflowers seeds be a nice alternative gesture?

Newspeaker · 27/05/2023 17:58

loudandclearr · 27/05/2023 15:34

the young people who are vocal about the environment are not the same young people who release balloons and Chinese lanterns into the sky.

They can be. There was a balloon release some weeks ago for a lovely young lady who died suddenly and tragically. I know one of her friends because I loan a horse to him. He's a right bloody eco warrior when he is posting on FB and yet he was also posting soulful photos of himself with his balloons, and the release.

Neither of us know percentages, but people are capable of really putting the blinkers on when it suits them.

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tailinthejam · 27/05/2023 18:03

Thesunwillcomeoutverysoon · 27/05/2023 08:58

Ignorant people obviously don't like donkeys....

...or turtles, or dolphins, or seals, all of whom mistake these balloons for jellyfish, swallow them and then die because they either can't breathe and suffocate, or the thing blocks their intestines and they starve to death.

Newspeaker · 27/05/2023 18:03

@LovelyLovelyWarmCoffee definitely spreading wildflower seeds is a lovely idea. A few people have mentioned it. How lovely if when you drove past the place where someone lost their life you saw some beautiful flowers, rather than some rotting trinkets.

I throw carefully selected handfuls of wildflower seeds in suitable spots when I'm out riding. 🙂

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MissyB1 · 27/05/2023 18:16

HoldingTheDoor · 27/05/2023 10:53

What about those caterpillar kits you can buy where you raise the bugs and release the butterflies?

Bad idea too. Same effects.

I need to tell the head at school about this. The school where I work buy those caterpillar kits for each class every spring.

oakleaffy · 27/05/2023 18:20

CoffeeCantata · 27/05/2023 17:44

I agree, OP. It's so depressing.

Apart from the environmental risk I find all the balloons and plastic-covered bouquets very performative. There ARE other ways to grieve, as you say. A candle-lit vigil or collection for charity instead of all the flowers. But it has to be a big performance.

I had to google the Cardiff incident as don't watch TV- and it looked like a riot-
Good luck to anyone trying to 'Educate' a mass of people like that that balloon releases are a terrible idea.

All the coloured flares as well, and burning cars-

I was shocked to see two kids riding an almost ''Motorbike'' that looked like it was made for one with no protective headgear.

I used to live near a place where kids used to ride small motorbikes /mopeds in TB horse's fields- One kid came off quite badly- I ran up to him, he asked if it was my field {It wasn't}..I asked if he was ok- and advised that a head is a vulnerable thing.
They were oblivious to the horses as well.

oakleaffy · 27/05/2023 18:26

Whowhatwherewhenwhy1 · 27/05/2023 14:39

Better choices

Not so, as latex balloons kill animals and marine life, too. No one needs to be releasing balloons into the environment- as others have said it's 'Performative' and what goes up, must come down.

CakeBeautifulCake · 27/05/2023 18:29

I hate them! I picked loads up from a farm lonning near me, we live in a coastal town so maybe the wind just happens to bring them there. Balloons don't go to heaven!! Plant native wild seed bombs instead and get an annual reminder of your loved ones! Balloon releases are mainly for Facebook likes than the actual 'sentiment' these days.

Zwellers · 27/05/2023 18:49

Overly emotive much op. With all that's going on in the world balloon releases break yor heart. OK then.

bookworm44 · 27/05/2023 20:18

Zwellers · 27/05/2023 18:49

Overly emotive much op. With all that's going on in the world balloon releases break yor heart. OK then.

No i think unecessary deaths and pain caused in living breathing creatures is what is breaking the op's heart when selfish humans don't give a shit.

AlwaysGinPlease · 27/05/2023 20:19

Zwellers · 27/05/2023 18:49

Overly emotive much op. With all that's going on in the world balloon releases break yor heart. OK then.

Two pricks on one thread.

Newspeaker · 27/05/2023 20:20

Zwellers · 27/05/2023 18:49

Overly emotive much op. With all that's going on in the world balloon releases break yor heart. OK then.

As I’ve said before - most of us find it possible to care about more than one thing at a time. 😎
You’re so cool aren’t you? Not caring about the little things like littering the countryside and the suffering and deaths of animals. Clearly you are unable to be concerned about the little things, it’s good that others have that capacity.

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Jourdain11 · 27/05/2023 22:00

Sugarfree23 · 27/05/2023 15:31

I actually can't believe people still let Chinese Lanterns go. I voiced concerns at a wedding 12 years ago when they were letting them go.

@Jourdain11 they are basically a mini hotair balloon, wire frame covered with a fabric and a tea-light candle inside them.

That's so fucked up, I can't actually believe it is allowed. That's why it genuinely didn't occur to me that this was what they were. I thought people were complaining about a lot of innocent little paper lanterns hanging off trees!

Isittimeformynapyet · 27/05/2023 23:52

LovelyLovelyWarmCoffee · 27/05/2023 13:07

A lot of things we do is bad for wildlife and the environment. I’m just wondering why you would focus on the one thing people do when they are grieving?
I wouldn’t personally do a balloon release for the reasons you listed but between a grieving family releasing balloons and someone in an idling car / someone littering (especially in the wild/sea) / someone driving purely for convenience / … I won’t start by pointing fingers at the former.

But it's not "the one thing" people do when grieving - why would you say that? People grieved long before the advent of balloon releases.

And why do you say OP has "started" on this issue? People have been pointing fingers at littering and idling in cars for years and the OP is among them.

There will always be someone grieving somewhere, so does that mean the clear negatives of this practice must never be addressed?

Sugarfree23 · 27/05/2023 23:56

NFU Petition

I've found a Petition by the Farmers Union to try and get the Chinese Lanterns band, apparently they are also known as Sky Lanterns.

Ban sky lanterns in England and Wales

I've signed a petition showing my support for a total ban of sky lanterns in England and Wales.

https://www.campaigns.nfuonline.com/page/103411/petition/1

DdraigGoch · 28/05/2023 06:18

TeaYarn · 27/05/2023 10:25

If you want to make a real impact against environmental waste then spend time working with businesses forcing them change their destructive practices.

Calling out private citizens who release balloons is like throwing a deck chair off the titanic and wondering why it still sank.

Roughly translated: "BP spilt some oil in the Gulf of Mexico and therefore I should be free to kill as many baby donkeys as I please."