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Neighbours reporting me for "denying joiner access"

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soanc · 25/05/2023 11:25

I live in council housing. It's an upstairs downstairs flat. They can only hear at my door if they are in their bedroom at the window

I had a joiner from council come over at 3pm. I pick my daughter up at 3.05 so I had to leave and said tomorrow would be better. He understood gave me a card

They phoned the council and reported this

Finally the council agree with me that it's too much and is more stalking /harassing. They should not know who is at my door. What i say or do

I even explained if they stalk me that much they must know I leave at 3 o'clock each day anyway and it wouldn't be possible

What do I do about these neighbours. It's endless they report me for the most ridiculous things. Like cardboard stored between bins for a day or two. Toys in my garden. If I have someone over they film them leaving my house.

It's honestly so invasive and finally the councils agreed a warning has been given but that's not enough they are not normal.

Neither of the couple works and it's like I'm their entertainment. They are known by the council as unfair and bullies.

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Sapphire387 · 26/05/2023 08:35

Keep a diary of the harassment and report them to both the police and the council as your landlord.

I can see both sides of this - I live in social housing, my mum has always worked for them too and I have grown up knowing quite a lot of the staff. I can guarantee you the council now know your neighbours are 'trouble makers' and will be rolling their eyes every time they phone up. The issue will be if you get a new, well-meaning member of staff who isn't aware of the backstory and actually gives credence to one of their ridiculous phone calls. So do get it all logged with them.

In terms of yourself, I am sorry this is happening to you, it must be very stressful. If you can manage to, try and take an emotional step back and realise they are being completely ridiculous and are making idiots of themselves. I still think you should report them as above, just... thinking in terms of trying to protect yourself, mentally.

Elleherd · 26/05/2023 11:42

Unless your tenancy agreement states you can't leave toys in your own garden then neighbors are evidencing their harassing, rather than 'just' being interfering 'enforcing rools' busy bodies. The bins may depend on if they're stored communally are/next to theirs etc, or entirely on your own property in which case keeping cardboard in-between them prior to collection day, (talk about crime of the century!) is entirely between you and council.

Hope I haven't spooked you with my assumptions about why they film. I may be projecting.
I'm disabled, often have carers, and when able; work. Neighbors film trying to prove I'm subletting, (carers coming and going) have abandoned my property, (back in hospital) claiming benefits while illegally working, (am not on benefits!) Bin not taken in after collection (was at work) not actually disabled, (sadly untrue) etc. When my children were younger, reports to SS 'concerned' children might be caring for me.
Footage trying to prove my supposed wrong-doing, gets sent all over the place in the name of 'concerns.' It's obvious, but hard to 'prove' they're anything but 'upstanding concerned citizens.'

I think you should be looking at exactly what your 'safer communities' team claims to do. (ours mainly focuses on serious crime reduction)

I pulled this regarding an average London borough:
...responsibility for:

  • recording and dealing positively with all incidents of anti-social behaviour throughout the borough
  • co-ordinating a unified response to the investigation of hate crime in all its forms, and for identifying resources and services for victims and witnesses
If yours says something similar, then neighbors are trying to abuse the services in the top sentence, and neighborhood team should be looking at how that contradicts what they claim they do in the 2nd sentence.
JudgeRudy · 26/05/2023 13:31

soanc · 26/05/2023 07:34

@JudgeRudy my family and friends think they are racists. My kids are mixed race. I said this to the council too

If there's no other reason to think how you may have upset them I'd suspect the obvious. Some of the biggest racists I know are particularly against inter-racial relationships. I'm not suggesting you make things up or 'play the race card' but in the absence of any obvious cause I'd say it's reasonable to assume racism. Ensure both the council and the police are aware. They take hate crimes seriously

LlynTegid · 26/05/2023 13:35

Do they take illegal drugs? Make sure the police and council know if they do.

Give the council a deadline, take it to second stage complaint if they fail to act, then the Ombudsman. Also ask them why they don't deal effectively with racism under the Equalities Act 2010 duties.

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