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To reinstate Mr/Ms/Mx on your email signatures

68 replies

Kreftla · 23/05/2023 22:32

I don’t care what people call themselves, I care about how they would like be referred to (extended to those people who shorten your name when they don’t ask!). I don’t use he/she, I always use ‘they’ when I don’t know someone’s name, my mother always said ‘She is the cat’s mother’. Still no idea what that means, but I hate being called ‘she’ and would never say my pronouns as I don’t care how people refer to me when I’m not there.

So, why don’t we just go back to titles? We have to do them on most forms. You can say if you want to be referred to as a Dr/Lord/Ms/Mx/Master etc. You can add them to your email signature if you want, HR/recruitment people will see it and can advise the interviewer accordingly. Nobody then has to ask about pronouns in a work environment as it’s on your email signature etc., if you want it to be.

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MavisMcMinty · 24/05/2023 12:15

I’m not a Quaker but went to a Quaker school, and they don’t use titles at all, we have our names and that’s enough. All very admirable, but good luck finding the appropriate tickbox for that on any online form with a red asterisk by “Title”.

JudgeJ · 24/05/2023 12:19

GoodChat · 24/05/2023 06:36

Let's just go the whole hog and add all our qualifications and our dates of birth to our signatures instead.

And our Covid status, according to another thread! One of the advantages of being very old is not having to deal with this nonsense any more at work, if a strapping 16 year old calls his teacher Mum can the teacher claim to be offended?

JudgeJ · 24/05/2023 12:21

YoucancallmeKAREN · 24/05/2023 07:36

Well OP you have offended me, my title is Mrs and i refuse to be referred as Ms or whatever the hell Mx is. Not really but i can't be arsed with all the crap of this modern mixed up world. And i still don't know what Mx is.

A girl after my own heart and, yes, I know I'm not supposed to use 'girl' but do I sound like I give a damn??

LlynTegid · 24/05/2023 13:11

Agree about shortening of names without agreement. Titles should be as optional on email signatures as declaring pronouns.

Verv · 24/05/2023 13:23

No titles. No "pronouns".

I want people to address the content of my email rather than the signature.
IDGAF if it's come from me or James Bond.

IDontWantToBeAPie · 25/05/2023 11:33

Just call me my first name... I don't need a title.

mondaytosunday · 25/05/2023 11:44

Never seem Mx.
Only pronoun specified emails I get are from the States.

ASeagullNamedCat · 25/05/2023 11:48

I am clearly female

There aren't too many male Samanthas kicking about

So my name will do rightly

qazxc · 25/05/2023 11:51

I have noticed an increasing amount of work emails are coming through with preferred pronouns at the end below the signature.
For example:
Fiona Shrek
(she/her)

It saves the guessing game on how a person wants to be referred to as.

FKATondelayo · 27/05/2023 10:31

My son's school (state comp beloved of sharp elbowed Guardian readers and the helicoptery end of the MN Education board) has a 'Mx'.

Sartre · 27/05/2023 10:34

I’m Dr but not the medical sort and that confuses people so I don’t use it. Dr is obviously unisex though so you’d still have to refer to my first name which is a female name so obvious which pronoun I use.

Sartre · 27/05/2023 10:35

FKATondelayo · 27/05/2023 10:31

My son's school (state comp beloved of sharp elbowed Guardian readers and the helicoptery end of the MN Education board) has a 'Mx'.

My son’s school does too. State comp in a small town. DS said it’s very obviously a man with a big beard.

SparklyBlackKitten · 27/05/2023 13:10

Why don't we go back to titles?
Why don't we go back to acting like normal beings instead if "identifying as a pronoun"🤣

Throckmorton · 27/05/2023 13:55

qazxc · 25/05/2023 11:51

I have noticed an increasing amount of work emails are coming through with preferred pronouns at the end below the signature.
For example:
Fiona Shrek
(she/her)

It saves the guessing game on how a person wants to be referred to as.

I don't understand this - why doesn't just their name suffice, as that's how you would refer to them, or when talking about them. Why would anyone need to know what sex they are?

qazxc · 28/05/2023 21:06

I find it easier. I rend to work with a lot of people with gender neutral names, androgynous appearance and a lot of the time their title doesn't help either or they don't use it. So at least if the tag line is there on the email I know whether to use he, she or them. Because writing or saying "Dr Rowan" in every sentence when referring to them sounds strange.

Curlygirl06 · 28/05/2023 21:38

Kreftla · 23/05/2023 22:32

I don’t care what people call themselves, I care about how they would like be referred to (extended to those people who shorten your name when they don’t ask!). I don’t use he/she, I always use ‘they’ when I don’t know someone’s name, my mother always said ‘She is the cat’s mother’. Still no idea what that means, but I hate being called ‘she’ and would never say my pronouns as I don’t care how people refer to me when I’m not there.

So, why don’t we just go back to titles? We have to do them on most forms. You can say if you want to be referred to as a Dr/Lord/Ms/Mx/Master etc. You can add them to your email signature if you want, HR/recruitment people will see it and can advise the interviewer accordingly. Nobody then has to ask about pronouns in a work environment as it’s on your email signature etc., if you want it to be.

Nobody ever says " Who's he, the cat's father" do they ? Always wondered about that.

Throckmorton · 29/05/2023 18:06

qazxc · 28/05/2023 21:06

I find it easier. I rend to work with a lot of people with gender neutral names, androgynous appearance and a lot of the time their title doesn't help either or they don't use it. So at least if the tag line is there on the email I know whether to use he, she or them. Because writing or saying "Dr Rowan" in every sentence when referring to them sounds strange.

I would use "they" in that case. Drawing attention to being female, sush as adding something to your email signature that implies your sex, can disadvantage women in the workplace, so in my opinion is not a good idea.

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 29/05/2023 19:03

Sorry but I cannot bring myself to give the tiniest of fucks about this. Also what the hell is Mx?

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