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Scam message, playing along to waste their time

45 replies

NoTimeForScams · 23/05/2023 10:02

Selling something on market place and just got the usual message of can’t pick it up but will send DPD with an envelope of money. Anyone want to help me string her along for as long as possible?

OP posts:
CoronationKicking · 23/05/2023 23:47

"This one can’t be, I’ve been messing with her all day."

"She" is probably a victim of people trafficking, assaulted if "she" doesn't do as she's told. Most likely a teenage boy

SiegeOfBees · 23/05/2023 23:50

I give them access to my VM, so i can reverse track their traffic, inject malware into teamviewer packets that then allow me to run a poweshell session and explore their computers.

In English…?

JoDolce · 23/05/2023 23:53

Well I used to mess the scammers around as I thought it was fun, asked them how they could live with themselves for doing such a job, told them to eff off. I never thought of them being victims themselves. There's nothing I can do about their situation, but after reading this I shall stop being unkind to them & just ignore

Anotherparkingthread · 23/05/2023 23:56

I had one of the "mum I've lost my phone" ones recently and kept him on like hook for hours. Most definitely not a bot. In fact I managed to find out who he was and also with a bit of clever digging whether he lives, not at all a slave in some empoverished country, he was in Huddersfield lol

pigsDOfly · 24/05/2023 14:13

CharlottenBurger · 23/05/2023 21:04

Counterfeit notes are more and more of a problem with collected online purchases. Sometimes the top one is genuine, the rest fake. The seller gets aggro from the bank becoming suspicious of them. Also, increasingly common, and maybe what is happening to the OP, is this

Initially the scammer will send a message to the seller pretending to be interested in their item. They then claim they will pay for the item by sending cash in an envelope which will be delivered by a courier company such as UPS Delivery or TNT Express.

Often the scammer will claim to be stuck in work, or unable to drive, hence the offer to send the envelope containing cash through the courier service. If the seller agrees to the unusual method, the ‘buyer’ will then ask for their name, address and email address.

Once they have this info, they will ask the seller to pay some kind of ‘insurance cost’ to the courier. The ‘buyer’ will try to explain that this is needed because the courier is shipping physical cash, but not to worry and that they will get this money refunded.

Meanwhile, the seller will receive an email appearing to be from the courier company, asking for the insurance cost to be paid so the courier company can make the delivery.

This will NOT be a legitimate email, no delivery will have been arranged, and the link in the email will direct the seller direct to a phishing site where the money will get paid to the scammer. The phishing site can also steal the debit/credit card information that is being used to pay.

@CharlottenBurger Thank you for that very clear explanation. Now it makes complete sense from the scammers' point of view.

I'm very wary of everyone online and on the phone but I never sell anything online so have never come across this one.

My daughter sells stuff online sometimes I shall make sure she's aware of this. Thank you.

Swansandcustard · 24/05/2023 14:21

I pretend to be an old (ok, older than I am) lady. Completely misunderstand when they ask me to read out credit card details etc. one was ready to meet me by the bank once. Obvs I didn’t go.

powershowerforanhour · 24/05/2023 14:22

"Love a scammer.

I give them access to my VM, so i can reverse track their traffic, inject malware into teamviewer packets that then allow me to run a poweshell session and explore their computers.

One day I aim to find a way to get their accounts and wallets and transfer the lot to charities."

I am the most non techie person I know, so have no idea what this means, but it all sounds fabulously Lisbeth Salander and I sincerely wish you every success with your future endeavours. Scammers are so scummy (not the teenage slaves obvs)

CoronationKicking · 24/05/2023 16:15

"In fact I managed to find out who he was and also with a bit of clever digging whether he lives, not at all a slave in some empoverished country, he was in Huddersfield lol"

The fact you think you got anything near the truth out of one of them shows you are way too naive to start messing with them.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/05/2023 16:32

Just say it's fine and you'll be waiting for DPD but they will be responsible to cover any insurance or shipping costs

If it's on a marketing site I thought it's the seller who's responsible for insurance/getting it there?

I wouldn't be doing it in response to some weird message though, just as I wouldn't let them arrange their own "courier". If the item's high value I'd do it myself and know who to blame if it went wrong

Anotherparkingthread · 24/05/2023 16:57

CoronationKicking · 24/05/2023 16:15

"In fact I managed to find out who he was and also with a bit of clever digging whether he lives, not at all a slave in some empoverished country, he was in Huddersfield lol"

The fact you think you got anything near the truth out of one of them shows you are way too naive to start messing with them.

Just because you aren't smart enough to navigate such things doesn't mean everybody is the same as you. Please don't underestimate my abilities or those of anybody else you know fuck all about.

Thesunwillcomeoutverysoon · 24/05/2023 17:04

My friend is currently sending £865 to scammers.. There is no telling her it's a scam.

TeaYarn · 24/05/2023 17:09

Why waste your own time? 🤷‍♀️

CoronationKicking · 24/05/2023 17:11

"Just because you aren't smart enough to navigate such things doesn't mean everybody is the same as you. Please don't underestimate my abilities or those of anybody else you know fuck all about."

🤣 ok then, good luck with it all.

Shadowworry · 24/05/2023 17:36

I give them the address
Caledonian Rd, London N7 8TT and the name Damian Hinds and then tell them I will help them and to ring the office on

020 7023 7000

when they get closer……

Shadowworry · 24/05/2023 17:37

Don’t ring the number by the way…..

CharlottenBurger · 24/05/2023 17:51

@pigsDOfly - you're welcome. The summary is that all they want is your card details, with the 3 digit special number. All the rest - goods, sale, cash, courier, is a distraction.

MooMooSharoo · 24/05/2023 18:36

I haven't ever strung anyone along on these (yet!), but I did click on a link in a spoof bank email once and filled in the username and password boxes with:

Username: DoYou Think
Password: ImFuckingStupid

Not sure if it was trackable to my email address, but it was to an old account I only ever use for junk mail anyway!

icelollycraving · 24/05/2023 18:48

I don’t understand why you’d waste your time and be considered a live one tbh. Just delete and block.

pigsDOfly · 24/05/2023 19:27

CharlottenBurger · 24/05/2023 17:51

@pigsDOfly - you're welcome. The summary is that all they want is your card details, with the 3 digit special number. All the rest - goods, sale, cash, courier, is a distraction.

Pretty scary that people are trusting enough to give out that sort of information to a random link they've been given by a complete stranger.

The answer I supposed, is never trust anyone, ever.

CharlottenBurger · 24/05/2023 20:20

pigsDOfly · 24/05/2023 19:27

Pretty scary that people are trusting enough to give out that sort of information to a random link they've been given by a complete stranger.

The answer I supposed, is never trust anyone, ever.

The world would grind to a halt if nobody trusted anyone. A pretty good rule of thumb is that if someone asks you to pay money to get money, it's a scam. Whether you are asked to pay a 'release fee' to unlock the millions in a Nigerian bank account, or 'tax' to cash out the 'Bitcoin investment' you think you've made, or something called a 'COT code' to release 'your funds' (there's no such thing), or, in this case, the 'insurance' for the 'cash' you're expecting. They want people who don't smell a rat and ask 'why don't you pay the insurance?' These people operate in large teams, and they target hundreds or thousands of people. They only have to get lucky a few times to make money.

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