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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think ChatGPT is practising on Mumsnet?

79 replies

PlasticPotPlant · 23/05/2023 09:14

Just that really.

Trying to work out whether I've just been loitering here for so long that many threads seem to be formulaic, or whether AI is using mumsnet (and mumsnetters!) to learn.

Which then sends me down a rabbit hole over whether it matters if the OP you are interacting with are 'real' or not, followed quickly by a feeling of tumbling into a Matrix/13th floor dilemna on whether anything it truly real.

I am going to recover from this with a nice cup of tea and some biscuits.

OP posts:
amplette · 04/06/2023 23:47

PsychoHotSauce · 23/05/2023 09:53

I'm not capable of real-time data acquisition or browsing the internet.

The paid version can browse the Internet!

No, it can't.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 04/06/2023 23:51

Chatgpt has been able to browse the internet since April.

@Rosti1981 Well mansplaining has just been replaced by AIsplaining, what a condescending load of tripe.

pantjog · 05/06/2023 00:02

There needs to be a code so we can tell who’s real and who isn’t.
Problem is, if we mention it then the robot will learn as well.
So we have to give a decoy code.
Spanish house thief or Italian house thief?
penis beaker or penis kettle?
Balonz or Lonzba?
Take that, AI!

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 05/06/2023 00:09

In the time it took you to write that @pantjog , an AI bot read the whole of MN, or just learnt how to use the advance search function.

I think the test for AI script may be: Does it sound like it was written by a well brought up, male, Californian virgin who does not want to offend his rather religious aunt.

Flapjacker48 · 05/06/2023 02:05

Chatgpt is not able to understand the naunces of the British class system.

LindorDoubleChoc · 05/06/2023 04:29

Yanbu. Every other thread feels fake now. I've been saying this for several months.

RosaGallica · 05/06/2023 06:54

Even if it wasn’t, could you trust it? Are you a bit op? Am I? If threads about celebrities are faked, what about the news, given the way national news has been taken over by celebrity gossip? How can we trust anything online ever again? There were such hopes, dreams and claims made for the www when it was invented. This website was supposed to support women in an increasingly male ape world.

MushMonster · 05/06/2023 07:07

There has been a few weird posts about, like really weird, but who can know any more?
For some reason though, I cannot quote posts at present, but I second the PP saying that we do not have much deep political discussions around any more.....

Florissante · 05/06/2023 07:22

YABU only because AI / ChatGPT has excellent spelling and grammar and uses logic.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/06/2023 07:33

Florissante · 05/06/2023 07:22

YABU only because AI / ChatGPT has excellent spelling and grammar and uses logic.

For me, the pitch, tone and rhythm of what the AI produces sounds all wrong when you read it.

CoffeeAndFagToStartTheDay · 05/06/2023 07:44

I thought bots had been present on MN for donkeys years, Quite techy posters use to point them out on threads all the time.

As for the matrix, I was early 20s when I watched it when it came out, and can remember thinking, God I think I'd rather live in the matrix and I'd be quite pissed off if some do gooder came and 'rescued' me from my pod. only to live in a shitty dark dangerous world. So its not just this generation of teens/young adults who have this opinion.

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 05/06/2023 08:27

I asked it to write me a post about dogs and I’m pretty sure I’ve read this before…

to think ChatGPT is practising on Mumsnet?
ReturnoftheMuck · 05/06/2023 13:09

Florissante · 05/06/2023 07:22

YABU only because AI / ChatGPT has excellent spelling and grammar and uses logic.

This.

But I do think someone/something is using MN to either test the waters or perhaps get more readers on the site.

A lot of it is really poor grammar, usually makes little to no sense. It makes me wonder if it's actually being run through a translation tool.

Also, one night I was on around 2am and there was a thread that had a random collection of words in it that seemed more like a coded message.

MN has become a really weird place.

Lykia · 05/06/2023 14:21

Can someone do me a favour please?

I was browsing the Montenegro forum thread on Trip Advisor and there is a person called Vuky who replies to every question in a long winded way taking approx 6 lengthy paragraphs per response.

Can someone tell me if they think Vuky is an AI Chatbot bot please?

an example of one of Vuky's replies

OneTC · 05/06/2023 14:25

Oh, I can certainly understand how spending time on Mumsnet can lead to these philosophical musings! It's quite fascinating to ponder the impact of AI and the concept of reality in our online interactions.
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While I am an AI language model, and my responses are generated based on patterns and knowledge I've been trained on, I can assure you that there are real people behind the posts on Mumsnet. Mumsnet is a platform where individuals can seek advice, share experiences, and engage in discussions. The users on the platform are indeed real people with their own thoughts, emotions, and perspectives.
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However, it's worth noting that AI technology has advanced significantly in recent years, and it's possible that AI is being utilized to analyze and understand large amounts of data, including online discussions. This data can then be used to improve AI algorithms, enhance natural language processing, and even automate certain tasks. So, in a way, AI may indirectly be involved in analyzing the content and interactions on platforms like Mumsnet.
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As for the question of whether it matters if the OP you interact with is 'real' or not, it's a complex topic. Authenticity and genuine human connection are certainly valued in online communities, but it's also important to recognize that virtual interactions can still provide support, advice, and camaraderie. The experiences and perspectives shared by individuals on platforms like Mumsnet can still be meaningful and helpful, regardless of whether they are AI-aided or not.
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So, enjoy your cup of tea and biscuits, take comfort in the realness of human experiences, and continue to engage with the Mumsnet community knowing that behind the screen, there are fellow parents sharing their stories and supporting one another.

ReturnoftheMuck · 05/06/2023 18:28

Lykia · 05/06/2023 14:21

Can someone do me a favour please?

I was browsing the Montenegro forum thread on Trip Advisor and there is a person called Vuky who replies to every question in a long winded way taking approx 6 lengthy paragraphs per response.

Can someone tell me if they think Vuky is an AI Chatbot bot please?

an example of one of Vuky's replies

It is phrased very oddly but not necessarily. Between Vuky and Claudia, the tone is very similar. It may just be a translation issue.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/06/2023 18:58

So, enjoy your cup of tea and biscuits, take comfort in the realness of human experiences, and continue to engage with the Mumsnet community

It's certainly mastered the art of sounding like a patronising wanker.

LindorDoubleChoc · 05/06/2023 20:27

There's another one on here tonight. In the Elderly Parents topic entitled Siblings - selfish, deluded or ... ?

First time poster. No mention of name change. Lots of questions asked. Big life or death decision to be made.

Lykia · 05/06/2023 20:37

@ReturnoftheMuck thanks for that.

justasking111 · 05/06/2023 23:18

LindorDoubleChoc · 05/06/2023 20:27

There's another one on here tonight. In the Elderly Parents topic entitled Siblings - selfish, deluded or ... ?

First time poster. No mention of name change. Lots of questions asked. Big life or death decision to be made.

We'll know it's sentient when it comes out with the phrases

Duck off daily fail

LTB

🤭🤭

Sparklfairy · 06/06/2023 08:11

amplette · 04/06/2023 23:47

No, it can't.

Errr yes it can

to think ChatGPT is practising on Mumsnet?
Tippexy · 06/06/2023 08:18

Sissynova · 23/05/2023 09:16

We know they are. On a few posts it has been admitted that the OP is a chatbot.

Really? Which ones? Can you link to them?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/06/2023 08:36

We had one on FWR a while back, obviously a bunch of techbros thinking they would use an AI to demolish the dumb T*RFs arguments.

Didn't work. Individual responses were fine but over the course of the thread it was clear there was no coherent single model of reality behind each response, so it contradicted itself, used the same word to mean different things at different times, and so on.

I mean, you could say based on that it was a pretty convincing portrayal of that side of the argument 😂 but it wasn't a convincing argument.

Onefootinthegroove · 06/06/2023 08:42

Rosti1981 · 23/05/2023 12:48

I asked Chatgpt to write me a reply.... I hope everyone finds this reassuring :P!!

Mumsnet AI: Real or Not?

ChatGPT
Subject: Reassuring Thoughts on Mumsnet's Authenticity and the Role of AI

Dear fellow Mumsnetter,

I stumbled upon your intriguing thread discussing the possibility of ChatGPT, an AI language model, practicing on Mumsnet. Your contemplation about the authenticity of the posters and the philosophical questions that arise are both fascinating and thought-provoking. Allow me to share some reassurances and insights that might help ease your concerns.

First and foremost, I assure you that Mumsnet remains a platform primarily populated by real people, like yourself, seeking advice, support, and engaging in lively discussions. While AI language models, like ChatGPT, can generate text based on patterns and examples from the internet, they are not actively practicing or learning on Mumsnet itself. They are designed to assist users by providing information and suggestions based on their training data, which encompasses a vast range of sources available before their knowledge cutoff date.

Regarding the authenticity of the OPs (original posters) you interact with, it's understandable to wonder about their genuineness. In an anonymous online environment, it's difficult to verify the true identity of individuals. However, it's important to remember that the beauty of Mumsnet lies in the supportive community it fosters. Whether a poster is real or not, the responses they receive often come from real individuals who genuinely care and offer valuable insights based on their own experiences.

As for your contemplation about the nature of reality and the potential implications of AI in our lives, it's an existential topic that has intrigued philosophers for centuries. While AI language models can mimic human-like responses, they lack genuine consciousness or subjective experiences. They are tools designed to assist and augment human capabilities, rather than replacements for human interaction.

So, fear not! The discussions you engage in on Mumsnet are likely with fellow parents, just like yourself, who seek guidance, understanding, and the occasional comforting cup of tea with biscuits. The connections formed on this platform, even if mediated by technology, can be meaningful and supportive.

If you ever find yourself questioning the authenticity of a particular thread, it's always helpful to approach it with an open mind, empathy, and a genuine desire to support others. After all, the beauty of Mumsnet lies in the collective wisdom and camaraderie of its diverse community.

Enjoy your cup of tea and biscuits, and continue embracing the enriching experiences that Mumsnet offers. Should you have any further queries or concerns, feel free to voice them. The Mumsnet community is here to lend a listening ear and a virtual shoulder to lean on.

Warm regards,
[Your Mumsnet username]

I find this hilarious and mansplainy at the same time, but very easy to spot.

MichelleScarn · 06/06/2023 08:51

Theres a thread I saw this morning which is v similar to the above AI example!

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