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AIBU or do I need to "Get with the times"?

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NotTodaySatanIHavePMS · 19/05/2023 21:51

DH has just downloaded Chat GBT (an artificial intelligence bot) onto 14 year old DSC's laptop because it will help 'give them ideas' for essays.

WTF? Am I being really old fashioned? Surely if you need ideas for your essay you read a bloody book.

Or have things really 'moved on' as DH insists and this is how all the kids study these days? Rather than do any critical thinking they just get spoon fed the answers by AI?

I'm really shocked he thinks this is okay. It feels akin to plagiarism to me.

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WhyCantYourPartnerDoIt · 19/05/2023 21:53

Why wouldn't you want your kid to use the most exciting technology?

People said the same shite about the calculator, and the computer, and all that and you know what? We still create kids with critical thinking skills who create the next amazing thing.

Stop being an old fart.

Changingplace · 19/05/2023 21:53

I think you need to be wary of plagiarism tbh, if all the kids start using it it’ll be pretty easy to spot…

Rummikub · 19/05/2023 21:54

i Wouldn’t encourage this at all.
We have banned this.

CalistoNoSolo · 19/05/2023 21:54

It's a great way to ensure your children don't learn to think and create for themselves.

TeaKitten · 19/05/2023 21:55

You should probably spend more time using it first to check wether it’s giving the answers or making suggestions, rather than just deciding that not a book = bad.

CheeseDreamsTonight · 19/05/2023 21:55

I'm torn. The odd idea, yes. Relying on it? Nope. Hard to police once it's there.

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ForeverFriendsAndPierrot · 27/07/2023 11:26

Read a book??

You Do need to get with the times!

minipie · 27/07/2023 11:28

Ask the school whether this is allowed? I would imagine it’s something they’ve thought about.

Approaching · 27/07/2023 11:29

I think they definitely do need to learn about AI, how to use it, its potential and limitations etc. But under the heading of “helping write essays”? No.

Draconis · 27/07/2023 11:32

You can do both!
I still nag my kids to read a book and we're all fascinated by chatgpt.

GarlicGrace · 27/07/2023 11:40

You can tell it things like "I've been asked to write a 250 word essay on the post-Roman era in Great Britain, roughly 400-600 AD. Which aspects do you think I should focus on?"

Then ask more questions stemming from its answers.

Then ask it for sources. Ask it to recommend books & articles that will best provide background information and details. In some cases, the AI will be able to feed you chunks of the recommended texts, so you don't need to find & read the whole opus.

Remember ALWAYS that AIs can get stuff very, very wrong! Trying to catch it out is a worthwhile exercise and, for a student, a valuable learning experience.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 27/07/2023 11:40

I've read a few things generated by chatGTP and I can always tell. It's clever yes, but it's not advanced enough (yet?) to fool a teacher I wouldn't have thought.

Even if it was, surely this comes under the heading of "cheating"

I wouldn't be encouraging this.
Have some fun with it, yes. Use it for homework, hard no.

BanditsOnTheHorizon · 27/07/2023 11:40

Lots of people are using this at work now

ReadtheReviews · 27/07/2023 15:22

Fine for kids getting to grips with tech but using it to become lazy thinkers, nope.

KleineDracheKokosnuss · 27/07/2023 15:24

GarlicGrace · 27/07/2023 11:40

You can tell it things like "I've been asked to write a 250 word essay on the post-Roman era in Great Britain, roughly 400-600 AD. Which aspects do you think I should focus on?"

Then ask more questions stemming from its answers.

Then ask it for sources. Ask it to recommend books & articles that will best provide background information and details. In some cases, the AI will be able to feed you chunks of the recommended texts, so you don't need to find & read the whole opus.

Remember ALWAYS that AIs can get stuff very, very wrong! Trying to catch it out is a worthwhile exercise and, for a student, a valuable learning experience.

This! ChatGPT is great for gathering ideas and sources.

ChadCMulligan · 27/07/2023 15:28

If you're not using ChatGPT or similar in your office job or school then you're not working efficiently.

I use it throughout the day, for writing responses to boring emails; reformatting and extracting data; summarising text; outputting outlines of scripts & boiler plate code etc.

I probably now save two hours a day of work for $24/month

OhBanana · 27/07/2023 15:32

The lack of engagement/ learning aside, chat gpt is becoming less and less accurate as more individuals feed it their code. They will almost certainly be generating some inaccurate essay titles and ideas. I also can’t see any educational institutions being okay with this so no I wouldn’t be encouraging my child. And I’m not a Luddite, my partner works in tech and we have most devices going etc - just think it’s a bad idea all around!

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/chatgpt-response-quality-decline#:~:text=For%20example%2C%20Chat%20GPT%2D4,from%20March%20to%20June%202023.&text=In%20recent%20months%20there%20has,the%20quality%20of%20ChatGPT%20responses.

Researchers Chart Alarming Decline in ChatGPT Response Quality

For example, Chat GPT-4 prime number identification accuracy fell from 97.6% to 2.4% from March to June 2023.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/chatgpt-response-quality-decline#:~:text=For%20example%2C%20Chat%20GPT%2D4,from%20March%20to%20June%202023.&text=In%20recent%20months%20there%20has,the%20quality%20of%20ChatGPT%20responses.

madnessitellyou · 27/07/2023 15:53

Teachers can tell when an essay has been written by AI. I read three identical essays last year. Not very good ones, either. Posed the question to ChatGTP. And there was the answer.

Hope that helps.

Bixs · 27/07/2023 15:58

A person on DS’s degree course just got kicked out of university for using ChatGPT

GarlicGrace · 27/07/2023 17:43

Bixs · 27/07/2023 15:58

A person on DS’s degree course just got kicked out of university for using ChatGPT

Using it or relying on it?

Wavingnotdrown1ng · 27/07/2023 19:07

https://www.jcq.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/JCQ-AI-Use-in-Assessments-Protecting-the-Integrity-of-Qualifications.pdf

The government has issued this advice to schools and colleges about the use of AI chat bots in assessments. The consequences for misusing it for GCSE and A-Level assessments are very serious - for candidates and for exam centres.

https://www.jcq.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/JCQ-AI-Use-in-Assessments-Protecting-the-Integrity-of-Qualifications.pdf

Phineyj · 27/07/2023 19:44

Just no.

If you need ideas to get started, there's Google! Or better, Google Scholar.

ChatGPT makes up references (maybe not all of them, but some).

Not referencing is a very poor habit to get into.

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