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Ex moving away, cutting all contact with DC. I am heartbroken

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Biscuitsandtreatsrule · 18/05/2023 21:06

I will start by saying I am most likely projecting alot of my own issues and unresolved trauma.

21 years ago I met my ex . I had not long left school. He was 10 years older. We met in the pub I worked in . His issues with drinking were not obvious to me until later down the line. My mother hated him . One the age gap two the drinking and three she was jealous of someone taking me away or my attention from her basically. I never knew my biological father . The man I grew up thinking was my dad moved to Devon when I was 17 cut all contact overnight and never came back. I later found out he wasn't my dad (he knew he wasn't. He qas married was having an affair with my mum and retired there with his wife thus leaving us behind in the process) I went looking for my dad in my thirties and found my siblings. My bio dad died when I was 15. I go to his grave sometimes. I have some photos and that's it .

I stayed with ex even when it became apparent his drinking was a problem. I believed him when he said he was lonely , wouldn't be like it if he was a dad .. usual stuff. We had a family. 4 children in total. The eldest boy is approaching 18 , two more sons came and then our daughter whos 9.

Violence came into the relationship. Many a beating I took. Some reported some not. 5 years ago he tried to strangle me in the family home while the kids were upstairs. Over a hobby I had and a job I qas applying for. I posted about it here under a different username in the days that followed.

I saw my chance to get free and I took it. He was arrested. I later filed for divorce. He stalked and threatened to kill me. A non molestation order I got with the help of women's aid. I went to court alone and was granted it. It took immense bravery. The depression engulfed me. I thought i would die more than once.

I met someone else . So did he. He's engaged to her. She knows of his past... doesn't believe it happened. IF it did happen it must have been my fault. He won't do it to her as she has her dad around and my problem was I didn't have a dad
Her words. She Said this to my children and I heard the call. I never stopped him seeing his kids. His contaact was intermittent. One day he arrived late and i had popped out to drop one of our sons at the train station. He drove off after waiting under 5 mins and that's the last anyone saw or heard of him. I was blocked on text and wattsapp. His family all cut me off when we split. They relied on him to facilitate contact and he fucked it up basically.

A month ago his mum contacted me asking yo meet me. Saying she wanted to see the children..so I met her. I don't like her but it's not her fault her sons a waste of space
Hes didn't send them birthday cards or even q christmas card. No presents. Nothing. He does pay maintenance. She met with me. Said the usual about my part and blame in it all. Some horrid things said. I said if the kids wanted to see her they could if they didn't I wouldn't force them. She saw them last weekend. 2 of them wanted to see her. 2 didn't
Her contacting me upset my daughter a great deal. She qas very distressed asking about her dad. When can she see him..honest truth I have never heard such a pained cry come out of a child. It was akin to her being in physical unbearable pain. Deeply distressing.

Weekend just gone no maintenance came so I emailed him. It's my only means of contact. A one sentence answer followed saying he's out of work at the minute. I was polite and said whilst unfortunate we have four kids who need feeding and any contribution would be welcome. He sent something later that day and another email to tell me next month he's moving with his fiance qnd her child to Cornwall. Penzance. Virtually off the map. He won't be back. There will be no contact. Its my job to tell my children when the times right that he's gone or going and what this means. At present we live in South London and he lives I Berkshire. He doesn't see them that far. Let alone 300 miles away. This is it. He's shut the door on ever seeing them.

This is where I sound selfish. I keep crying. In bed. When they are out. When driving. It hurts
Hurts hes picking up his life with no responsibility. Hurts he's never ever apologised for what he did to me and us and Is leaving. Its opened old wounds around my own dad. I am frightened of the pain this will cause my children. I am scared of hearing the pained cry of my little daughter who doesn't understand why her dad doesn't want to know them.

I don't know what I am trying to say. Just wanted to get it out. I messaged his mum and asked if she knew when she contacted me. She says he only told her at the weekend. I don't believe her. I can't prove it but I just don't. It's not her fault he's doing this but I feel so hurt.

Someone please hold my hand I feel like I am drowning under 21 years of pain sadness and abuse. He would beat me and tell me my dad never fucking wanted me. And now he's doing this. I am in alot of pain mentally at the moment. X

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Hesma · 18/05/2023 21:09

Not really sure what to say but I think you’re all better off without him. Sending a hand hold x

JennyForeigner · 18/05/2023 21:20

All I can tell you is that my siblings loved our dad very much as a child, but that we really wanted him to cut contact. He wasn't anything like your ex partner, but he was in a volatile relationship with a woman with severe mental illness.

The strain of trying to maintain a happy face and not to worry our mum was terrible. We were frightened of losing our dad, but more frightened by having to see him in a home we found deeply frightening and where we were unwelcome.

I feel very strongly for your daughter's pain, but I also think this may turn out to be the best thing for them. They won't be torn between you, they will understand how he treated you, because of how he has treated them (and what a scumbag).

30 years on from our childhood we have a mum who is and has always been a complete rock. She is a superstar. When they are old enough, your kids will understand that about you too.

girlfriend44 · 18/05/2023 21:23

Good riddance tell him. He sounds awful.

Puppylover83 · 18/05/2023 21:31

I just want to say it does get better.
My child's dad destroyed my life . My kids went into Foster care , I managed to find the strength to end it with him and a year later he didn't turn up to the contact centre to see my children they turned up to no dad , I found out he had moved to Australia to live with the woman he was talking to on the Internet.
He left me to tell the kids . It really hurt my daughter my son wasn't that bothered but I felt like a steam train had rolled over me.

How dare he create this situation and I'm left to deal with the consequences. It felt so unfair. He could go off and have this nice life the other side of the world yet my life was in absolute pieces. He's never spoke to the kids since . 8 years now. That life went to pieces and he came bk but he will never have what I've got with my kids.

I honestly thought someone had smashed my heart into bits , I was having to go thru the fight by myself but he actually did me a favour. My kids we are closer than ever . I don't have to fight him over anything and he has lost out on the best thing that could've happened to him yet I am living it. And you will be too. Your kids need you , not HIM. He's walking away. They will know who's stayed and who loves them.

Please be kind to yourself. It will all be worth it.

lilacbunny · 18/05/2023 21:38

He's with a woman who thinks because she has a dad he won't beat her or emotionally abuse her. Wow what a stupid bitch. She will be in for a shock.
Both her and her kid will regret this move with him.

Honestly he's giving you the best gift ever. You won't have to deal with him and your children won't have to deal with him ever again. They will be better off from now on.

He's put you through enough.
Take back your power, dry your tears. Your daughter doesn't need a bullying psychopath like that in her life, nor do your sons.

I wish you the best and you will be happy again.

itsmylife7 · 18/05/2023 21:40

Your children have their amazing strong Mother.....YOU.

You will get through this awful time and be there for your children. One day at a time is all you need to do. 💐

PaigeMatthews · 18/05/2023 21:44

Definitely keep going through CMS. He will be back in work at some point.

CheeseTouch · 18/05/2023 21:46

I am sorry love, that sounds so difficult 😞 Things will get better, I promise.

Biscuitsandtreatsrule · 18/05/2023 22:09

I am crying reading these replies. Thankyou to everyone who has replied.

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canfor · 18/05/2023 22:13

Don't look back, only look forward. Kids adapt. Strive to be the best mum you can be and know that if he can make a decision to leave his kids by moving so far away he was never going to be a brilliant dad to them.

Throckmorton · 18/05/2023 22:18

Massive hugs. Your children will be better off without him, even if they are sad in the short term. I suspect you are not so much grieving him as grieving your dad walking out on you. Remember though, your kids are in a different place - your ex hasn't been much of a father so they are not losing what you lost. So, big hugs to you for what you lost, but don't worry that your children are in the same place, because they're not. Be kind to yourself, and remember your kids have you, which is the most important thing!

Starlightstarbright1 · 18/05/2023 22:26

You will all get the chance to heal .

His mum is on her Ds’s side no matter what she tells you .

TicTac80 · 18/05/2023 22:29

Well done for getting out of the marriage. You are braver and stronger than you probably realise. I know your kids may be upset now but believe me they'll know who walked away and left them....and who stood by them as they get older.

Your XH has shown himself to be a diabolically awful husband and father. I think - and I know you don't feel it just yet - that he's doing you and the kids a huge favour by moving away. None of you will have to deal with this vile abusive man, and that deluded woman that he's gone off with again (as an aside, how DARE she say that sort of shit to your kids?! I'd be bloody glad that they've fucked off 300miles away so the DC wouldn't be exposed to her vile poison too!).

You sounds like an amazing and wonderful person. I will bet that one day, you'll be thanking the stars that you're free of this shitbag, your shitty ex in-laws and Shitbag's Shitty Fiancee. Look after yourself and be kind to yourself x

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 18/05/2023 23:02

It's understandable that you're upset - especially on behalf of your DD - but you will come through this.

You are such a strong woman and an excellent role model for your children.

You've got this 💪 but here's a 🐻 hug anyway

NotMeSecretFormular · 18/05/2023 23:17

Your children have had, and will always have you. There's no substitute for that, they have their mum there in their corner always. You are amazing for being there day in day out with four children. He is a complete waste of skin. It's bloody awful that your kids will have to come to realise that when they deserve so much more but please, don't for a second underestimate yourself and what you are to your kids every day. DD's "dad" disappeared off the face of the earth over 3 years ago. Left behind a 7 year old with no explanation whatsoever. In a way, it was for the best as he was extremely abusive and manipulative.
The trash sometimes takes itself out. Your babies are yours, fuck him. I hope one day he comes to understand the gravity of this and it burns him alive.

junebirthdaygirl · 18/05/2023 23:27

It's a type of grieving but you will come through it and be even further down the road. The pain and disappointment has been there and this has brought it to the surface. As it comes out you will eventually feel better. Let it happen. He is only a torment to you. Let him off. His loss. Your dc have you. He will be sorry yet.

Biscuitsandtreatsrule · 18/05/2023 23:30

I believe he will regret this one day if he doesn't already. I don't know this woman he's with. The children only met her twice. We have never had an address for him and they have never been to his house or stayed overnight. Too small was the reason given. At Christmas my son wrote on his Christmas list to Santa he wanted to see his dad. I took a photo and emailed it to my ex. I copied his mum in on it as I did wonder what shit he had fed her about why he wasn't seeing his kids. It was a long email asking him to think carefully about what he was doing
The effect it would have on them and that he won't ever get this time back. I appealed to him to try and build bridges. What not having my dad had done to me even into adulthood. He never replied. His mum told me when I saw her the other week that he had read and received it and said he didn't want to talk about it. They all said dealing with me was too much hassle. I was blamed. Blamed for them not bothering.

Shes on her sons side. I know that. She's only come cap in hand to me as he's burnt his bridges and without me she's fucked for ever seeing them again. I told her this too. In those exact words. That she's no choice but to go through me and hope I play nice as her sons fucked it for everyone concerned in their family.

I feel so incredibly sad he's doing this. How could he. The fiance I Don't know if she's behind any of this. I seriously question any woman who can meet a man move him in with her and her teenage daughter in months let alone know he has 4 kids who he never has overnight. And then move with him so far away knowing he won't see them. Something not right about any mother who looks the other way while her partner does that. She deserves all she has coming to her. Karma will get them all

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caringcarer · 19/05/2023 00:02

I'm sorry you and your dd are sad but really, you know he is not a nice man. You and DC are better off without him. Will he still send you money for DC? If not contact CMS.

Biscuitsandtreatsrule · 19/05/2023 00:02

At the moment they don't know. My eldest is away with work and I have told him. He says he's glad. He despises his father anyway and feels this is for the best. As far away as possible was his response. He has said he won't say anything and he will allow me to tell the others when I feel the time is right. The upset this will cause I know will intensify my eldest sons anger to his father. Hes wanted to change his surname for the past 2 years and I know when he turns 18 this is something he intends doing. In his words he wants the family surname to die out .

Our son was mugged last year and his father and I were in contact about it and what was happening with the case. We were getting on well. He messaged one night and said his new partner was upset at us being in touch and jealous. He went to his mum and Said she was worried we would get back together and gave him a bit of grief over it. It was not all that longer after that he drove away and cut all contact with everyone.

Whats hurting is my ex MIL said one of the reasons he left me was he didn't like me going for a certain job. I am aware looking back with the passing of time he was clearly unhappy about it, although he never said it to me. He went to his family behind my back slagging me off turning them against me and complaining. Then came home and attacked me drunk. This new partner works for the NHS and he's supported her in her training career and (this is only a guess now ) I wonder if that is why they are relocating so far away. As far as I know none of her family are from Cornwall they are picking up and starting from scratch down there . I wasn't afforded the same support and backing.

At the moment I am sitting with my feelings and allowing them to go through me. For me to feel them and to process the pain. I am scared the pain won't ever really go away. Its been along time now and I still feel trapped.

And lastly If something should ever happen to me. What about my kids?? I mentioned this in the meeting with ex MIL the other week and she said we'll I suppose they would end up in care. I was shocked. Its an incredibly heavy burden to carry. The weight is immense. I feel trapped with no way out . I just can't cope with how painful this all feels right now

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Biscuitsandtreatsrule · 19/05/2023 00:03

Yes he said he will still pay maintenance and to let him know if my bank details ever change for any reason.

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Gymnopedie · 19/05/2023 00:05

First of all please keep your DCs away from MIL. She's a poisonous toad, who knows what she would say to them if she sees them, and she shouldn't be allowed to drop in and out of their lives whenever she feels like it.

I'm sorry you're hurting, it comes through in your post so clearly it's almost visceral. But you can be strong. Don't let your experience of your own father(s) determine who you are. You can be better than them. And you are better than your ex. Your DCs are lucky to have you. Yes they will hurt, but they will recover in time.

You were deceived and abandoned on so many levels as a child. Your bio father never wanted to know you, the man you thought was your dad wasn't and abandoned you without warning at 17. Your DCs know who their dad is, and they will come to understand what a waste of space he is. It truly won't be as hard for them as it was for 17yo you. Support them through this, but I strongly recommend a counsellor for you if you can afford it, as someone to support you through this and to help you come to terms with what happened to you so that it doesn't eat away at the rest of your life.

Escapingafter50years · 19/05/2023 00:10

Oh wow you have so much going on and I feel so sad for you. You have a long road ahead of you but your inner strength comes across in your posts. I have a completely different situation but have had to learn about lifelong abusive behaviours and try to come to terms with the effect on me. This sometimes means going through the pain of understanding that someone you thought cared about you actually didn't. So please bear that in mind with what I'm saying.

You said "I don't like her but it's not her fault her sons a waste of space". We all learn behaviours from our parents. If this disgusting violent man didn't learn his behaviour from his mother, was it from his father - and if so did his mother allow his father's behaviour, giving the sense that it was acceptable in some way? (This is a big reason why many posters on MN put a lot of pressure on women in violent relationships to leave such men).

We, particularly women, are trained from an early age to accept our roles in life. If a child is unfortunate enough to be brought up in a dysfunctional family, they are unlikely to learn that they are valuable human beings, or that they should be treated with respect, and they are not equipped to recognise red flags when finding a potential partner when they reach adulthood.

This man beat you. Strangled you. Stalked you. Threatened you. I know this is not what you want your daughter to experience. I know this is not what you want your sons to do. So you need to learn about dysfunctional families, behaviours and how they carry on through the generations.

Your children don't actually love this man. They love the idea of a loving father, which this man is absolutely not. (I remember my covert narcissist mother telling me I loved my violent alcoholic father, and I was to be excited when he came home; as a child I couldn't understand that this was untrue, impossible, and abusive).

Your own background is so sad, and I would like to point out to you that this is not your fault. As an innocent child you deserved to be looked after and nurtured as a young human being. I believe your childhood set you up to end up with an abusive man as you weren't taught that you should be treated with decency. Why did you accept this behaviour and not leave? Not blaming you, just suggesting you think to yourself what made you stay. It is time to break this cycle and get toxic people out of your life.

Your partner's mum is not bringing anything positive into your life, is there really a need to be in touch with her?

In relation to your disgusting ex, perhaps read about "trauma bonding". Also read up about Nicola Gallagher, wife of a sports coach in Northern Ireland who recounted her story recently.

Ultimately, you cannot change anyone else, and other people aren't going to change so long as things, dysfunctional though they may be, are working for them. The only one you can change is yourself.

You have had many years of serious, I would say extreme, abuse, but you hopefully have many many years ahead of you. It will benefit your children enormously if you can work on yourself, with help (lots of free online resources out there), and it will change your life so much for the better.

WhotheHellisEdgar · 19/05/2023 00:13

Stay strong you're better then he will ever be 💐
And unfortunately she will have to learn the hard way.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 19/05/2023 00:20

Escapingafter50years · 19/05/2023 00:10

Oh wow you have so much going on and I feel so sad for you. You have a long road ahead of you but your inner strength comes across in your posts. I have a completely different situation but have had to learn about lifelong abusive behaviours and try to come to terms with the effect on me. This sometimes means going through the pain of understanding that someone you thought cared about you actually didn't. So please bear that in mind with what I'm saying.

You said "I don't like her but it's not her fault her sons a waste of space". We all learn behaviours from our parents. If this disgusting violent man didn't learn his behaviour from his mother, was it from his father - and if so did his mother allow his father's behaviour, giving the sense that it was acceptable in some way? (This is a big reason why many posters on MN put a lot of pressure on women in violent relationships to leave such men).

We, particularly women, are trained from an early age to accept our roles in life. If a child is unfortunate enough to be brought up in a dysfunctional family, they are unlikely to learn that they are valuable human beings, or that they should be treated with respect, and they are not equipped to recognise red flags when finding a potential partner when they reach adulthood.

This man beat you. Strangled you. Stalked you. Threatened you. I know this is not what you want your daughter to experience. I know this is not what you want your sons to do. So you need to learn about dysfunctional families, behaviours and how they carry on through the generations.

Your children don't actually love this man. They love the idea of a loving father, which this man is absolutely not. (I remember my covert narcissist mother telling me I loved my violent alcoholic father, and I was to be excited when he came home; as a child I couldn't understand that this was untrue, impossible, and abusive).

Your own background is so sad, and I would like to point out to you that this is not your fault. As an innocent child you deserved to be looked after and nurtured as a young human being. I believe your childhood set you up to end up with an abusive man as you weren't taught that you should be treated with decency. Why did you accept this behaviour and not leave? Not blaming you, just suggesting you think to yourself what made you stay. It is time to break this cycle and get toxic people out of your life.

Your partner's mum is not bringing anything positive into your life, is there really a need to be in touch with her?

In relation to your disgusting ex, perhaps read about "trauma bonding". Also read up about Nicola Gallagher, wife of a sports coach in Northern Ireland who recounted her story recently.

Ultimately, you cannot change anyone else, and other people aren't going to change so long as things, dysfunctional though they may be, are working for them. The only one you can change is yourself.

You have had many years of serious, I would say extreme, abuse, but you hopefully have many many years ahead of you. It will benefit your children enormously if you can work on yourself, with help (lots of free online resources out there), and it will change your life so much for the better.

What a powerful piece of advice. I hope it helps you OP.
Look after yourself and show your kids how much you love them, keep them close

Idtotallybangdreamoftheendlessnotgonnalie · 19/05/2023 00:21

He's repeating the control cycle with the new women, isolating her. It'll keep her dependent on him for company.

Get your daughter and yourself a decent therapist and don't look back x