To be upset about ‘university blind’ recruitment

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DS has overcome so many challenges and has an unconditional offer from Cambridge after achieving 4 A star last year. He has worked so hard and we are so proud of him! But I was upset to learn that so many companies are recruiting “university blind”now - what the hell is the point of going to a top Uni if no one will know about it! My younger child says she will apply to Manchester Met and have a ball even though she too is predicted stellar grades as there is no point going to a top Uni

AIBU to be sad that companies are recruiting blind?

😂 Spot on!
I have 2 degrees OP (not from posh universities may I add) that I've worked bloody hard for, considering my life circumstances. I take offence at your snobbish words. Regardless, others are right, in many fields a degree itself is not what lands you a career.

Uni of Hertfordshire specialises in career pathway degrees like law, teaching, business, paramedic training and similar so if you want a degree to make your son more employable then this isn’t the snarky comparison you think it is.

If you just want bragging rights then he can still tell anyone willing to listen that he went to Cambridge once one of these companies offers him a job.

No job I’ve had have ever seemed to see the value in any of my qualifications, it’s all just a popularity contest in reality.

For graduate recruitment don't they care more about your extracurriculars and like leadership ability and the ability to be resilient etc

Yes, the really, really important thing is, will they remain safely transphobic?
Bloody hell, this is both tragic and repulsive.

You know the lecturers at Cambridge will have taught elsewhere right? In some cases the system is so screwed you actually have the same person teaching in both at the same time (gotta love temporary part-time contracts)

Transphobic?

I also really welcome this blind recruitment more broadly as it reminds me of when we were naming our kids and my husband was so concerned about their “foreign name” on a job application and tried to think of names they could anglicise. I thought it was unnecessary in this day and age but I suppose he still works in a company where is he is one of not even a handful of black people in 2023.

Just an excuse to brag...

I know it’s a minority opinion, but YANBU. The top Unis have the hardest courses and so a 2:1 from one is equivalent to a 1st from a garden variety Uni.
To have Uni blind recruitment punishes students who have stretched themselves. It’s rather like do you want the student who got As in Underwater Basket Weaving? Then do Uni blind recruitment.

It’s rather like do you want the student who got As in Underwater Basket Weaving? Then do Uni blind recruitment.

It's really really not.

People can’t change sex. Sorry to break it to you. It’s ‘tragic and repulsive’ that places of academic learning are trying to preach otherwise.

Now I'm thinking with uni blind recruitment the Cambridge person can get the job through their own talent and hard work?

It really depends on the firm and the qualification.

We recruit graduates but by accident. Their degree is irrelevant. If they have the professional qualification we need which we know comes from 3 years hard graft and tough exams we will consider them or if they are part way through it. Many degrees are quite easy.

I think academic types choose Oxford and Cambridge for the challenge and the cache not the job prospects.I would assume many would end up as academics which does not pay very well.

Anyone who sees a CV with Oxford or Cambridge on it will be impressed. Although to be honest Oxford Brookes often gets mistaken for the real thing by HR departments especially overseas ones so it might be just as good.

Well if he can't stand out in an interview after going to one of the top unis in the country then maybe he's not the best person for the job 🤷‍♀️

Well, we're from a very ordinary MC family with no connections whatsoever so my brother got into Cambridge completely without family support. In fact, he did his own application and no one prepped him for the interview. He's just very clever in STEM subjects and his hobby growing up (from the age of about 9) was speed-cubing (solving the Rubiks cube in under 1 minute and then he moved on yo cubes of all sizes). So I don't think Cambridge cared very much about his parentage when they accepted him.

It is not transphobic to know that men cannot turn into women. Neither is it tragic or repulsive.

Did you go to university yourself? Did it not teach you critical thinking skills?

know it’s a minority opinion, but YANBU. The top Unis have the hardest courses and so a 2:1 from one is equivalent to a 1st from a garden variety Uni.

Is it ? Really?

" a garden variety"😁

Seriously, great students make the most of whatever course they are on.

Well if he can't stand out in an interview after going to one of the top unis in the country then maybe he's not the best person for the job 🤷‍♀️
I'm increasingly coming round to this opinion too.

Oh, ok then. You’ve fully convinced me with your compelling argument that is nothing like primary school level debate of “no it’s not”

Civil Service Fast Stream recruits blind, last year majority were still Oxbridge and Durham

The TEF does not measure teaching quality - no-one steps inside a lecture theatre, seminar room or lab once in making that award.

Is this a joke? The point of going to a good university like Oxford is the fantastic education that your child will receive. Part of that education will prepare them for the world of work.

If he's just interested in the career aspect then a good university will be well placed to provide opportunities and advice.

The blind hiring is to stop recruiters being dazzled by the university and actually focus on the candidate and how their experience and character aligns with the job description.

HR at my employer won’t even let us see CVS for people we are interviewing. Morons!

I can not believe that you’re getting worked up over what sounds like a very privileged individual perhaps losing a tiny iota of privilege.

You also need to think about people and issues beyond your tiny bubble- why do you think some companies are doing it? Could it possibly, shock horror, be because those universities may not actually always produce the best employees? And it’s better to focus on the bigger picture rather than just seeing “oxbridge” and offering them the job on the spot, because you know they produce good fellows who can use the correct fork?

Oh, ok then. You’ve fully convinced me with your compelling argument that is nothing like primary school level debate of “no it’s not”

Because 'Underwater Basket Weaving' was right up there? 😂