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No photos/videos at school event

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Twocatsonefrogandamouse · 12/05/2023 07:38

Went to an event put on my the local council, 10 different schools all coming together under one roof to collaborate and participate as a group. The usual ‘no photography/videoing’ advice is issued and one set of parents from the school my son attends is snapping away on their phone. Get asked not to, still carry on secretly doing it. These are grown adults. Then smugly show everyone after what they have taken. I’m so outraged by them, don’t they think that everyone would like to take photos? They have them now of not just their child but either of the whole school group but also close ups of my child. I feel so pissed off that people have such a blatant disregard for safeguarding. I know I’m being irrational, I just need to vent!

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Gypsyo · 12/05/2023 17:12

@Nanny0gg to be fair, as a member of the PTA and personal friends with a number of parents (and therefore on many groups on fb etc.) I've never seen anyone put pictures of the events on social media and they'd soon be reported if they did - I would certainly report any instances of this.

Colourfingers2 · 12/05/2023 21:00

Ok everyone I apologise. Maybe I’m just too old to understand how photos can be used these days. I remember my parents taking a camera to my school plays.
Ive not encountered a problem myself but reading through yeah I get it now so Sorry Mumsnet Mums. Seems nothing can be held sacred these days, very sad times indeed.

StrongandNorthern · 12/05/2023 21:07

Completely agree that those people are selfish and stupid.
However - I wish schools would EXPLAIN CLEARLY/spell out the (safeguarding) issues. A lot of people simply don't understand ... and may be (at least a few) would comply more readily if they did.

Offensiveapprently · 12/05/2023 21:07

Jellycatspyjamas · 12/05/2023 16:30

foreigners have more sense than us British in this regard and do not believe that everyone is a rabid nonce because they are not whipped up into a permanent paranoia by their press.
After all what harm can such simple photographic momentoes do?

My children are adopted, they were removed from their birth family for safety reasons. Their birth family don’t know their new family name or where they live. There’s a member of the extended north family in my local area, it would be very easy for them to trace my kids through photographs at a school concert inadvertently shared on social media or with friends. There’s absolutely no need to have or share photographs of children who aren’t yours.

I know there are various kids with looked after status in my kids school and some parents who have left abusive relationships- it’s easy to trace someone through their children. Nothing to do with suspecting everyone of being a raging paedo, everything to do with known risk.

Are you me? My kid is adopted one tray picture on Facebook means he is unsafe and we have to move schools. Dangerous family nearby too!

BishyBarnyBee · 12/05/2023 21:15

Colourfingers2 · 12/05/2023 16:23

The Officer for Data Protection said a few years ago in a public statement that there is no lawful reason or precedent to prevent parents taking photos of their children at school plays and concerts.
I have no objection to anyone taking photos at my children’s school concerts and neither does my ex. But then my children are being educated in the Czech Republic as the education is better, the environment is safer and there are more fulfilling activities for them to do than here.
On the continent schools and jobs worth’s do not object to parents taking photographs of their children although I do have to say that foreigners have more sense than us British in this regard and do not believe that everyone is a rabid nonce because they are not whipped up into a permanent paranoia by their press.
After all what harm can such simple photographic momentoes do?
So yes you are being unreasonable in my opinion OP as is anyone else who thinks otherwise.

When you tell us they are getting a far superior education in the Czech Republic than "here", are you "here"? Because my kids got far superior parenting "here" than they would if I packed them off somewhere else, however great the choice of activities "there".

Cantthinkofaname2203 · 12/05/2023 21:34

StrongandNorthern · 12/05/2023 21:07

Completely agree that those people are selfish and stupid.
However - I wish schools would EXPLAIN CLEARLY/spell out the (safeguarding) issues. A lot of people simply don't understand ... and may be (at least a few) would comply more readily if they did.

That is difficult to spell out though without effectively announcing that there are kids at risk in the school- it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out who those kids are.

there were very vulnerable children at my dc’s primary. Most worked it out because of the absolute blanket no photos in school rule. The children all knew because kids talk- one was in dc’s class and let slip snippets of their life prior to being removed by SS and why they didn’t live with mum and dad - pretty horrific stuff.

if you’re an acquaintance of the family and school announces you can’t take pictures because of vulnerable children, you’re going to dig, and report back.

Colourfingers2 · 12/05/2023 21:49

BishyBarnyBee · 12/05/2023 21:15

When you tell us they are getting a far superior education in the Czech Republic than "here", are you "here"? Because my kids got far superior parenting "here" than they would if I packed them off somewhere else, however great the choice of activities "there".

My ex moved back to the Czech Republic in 2017 when our daughter was due to start primary school. She didn’t get into the school we wanted and my ex said that I couldn’t just offer them money to give her a place because things don’t work like that anymore. She was a Nursery teacher and still is over there and also now interprets for Corporate Companies at meetings.
Anyway to cut a long story short, since you asked, the parenting our children get is excellent from both of us I work and live here to provide properly for our family and I paid off her mortgage on her house there when she went home so they have a permanent safe home. They are thriving in their English school over there and receiving a proper rounded education rather than being taught to the test which British education seems to have become since my day plus politically correct woke nonsense tailored to whatever pathetic whim is currently fashionable is not brought into the classroom.
They’ll go further than I ever could have in life and yes the school is privately funded partly by me and my beloved ex and partly by the scholarship our children earned for themselves.
State comprehensive never did me any good.

BishyBarnyBee · 12/05/2023 21:55

Colourfingers2 · 12/05/2023 21:49

My ex moved back to the Czech Republic in 2017 when our daughter was due to start primary school. She didn’t get into the school we wanted and my ex said that I couldn’t just offer them money to give her a place because things don’t work like that anymore. She was a Nursery teacher and still is over there and also now interprets for Corporate Companies at meetings.
Anyway to cut a long story short, since you asked, the parenting our children get is excellent from both of us I work and live here to provide properly for our family and I paid off her mortgage on her house there when she went home so they have a permanent safe home. They are thriving in their English school over there and receiving a proper rounded education rather than being taught to the test which British education seems to have become since my day plus politically correct woke nonsense tailored to whatever pathetic whim is currently fashionable is not brought into the classroom.
They’ll go further than I ever could have in life and yes the school is privately funded partly by me and my beloved ex and partly by the scholarship our children earned for themselves.
State comprehensive never did me any good.

We obviously have very different values and priorities.

Colourfingers2 · 12/05/2023 21:59

BishyBarnyBee · 12/05/2023 21:55

We obviously have very different values and priorities.

Well mine is doing whatever I can to make sure my children have the best I can provide in my own way as I’m sure yours is too so on that we agree.

pecantoucan · 12/05/2023 22:13

I genuinely think people should be arrested for this

MayThe4th · 12/05/2023 22:22

While it’s understandable that schools ask for children not to be photographed on their premises, IMO the ship on being able to prevent children from being photographed and put on social media has long since sailed.

We have more CCTV than any other country in the world. Children are on social media before they leave primary, no they shouldn’t be, but they are. And it is inevitable that the majority of children will be photographed and video’d and would be traceable even if the parents aren’t on social media and the schools prevent pictures from being taken.

In the park, at the pool, at children’s parties, walking down the street, in any shop…

The schools predominantly prohibit photos because it’s annoying to have people jumping up and down with cameras all the time, and so that they’re not implicated if a child is traced.

Colourfingers2 · 12/05/2023 22:23

Mumsnet moderators please delete all my posts from this thread. It’s getting beyond ridiculous now.

MayThe4th · 12/05/2023 22:24

@Colourfingers2 · Colourfingers2 · if you report your posts and ask for them to be removed mnhq will do so.

nothingcomestonothing · 12/05/2023 22:26

if someone would rather a child miss out or be put at risk so they can take photos they’re a twat.

This. My (adopted) DS was the reason the school nativity couldn't be filmed one year. I had to listen to other parents whinging 'why should their DC suffer' by not getting a film of the play. Compared to what my DS had endured before coming to me, the idea that not having your KS1 nativity filmed was 'suffering' saw those parents plummet in my estimation.

SnackSizeRaisin · 12/05/2023 22:35

Several local schools here put a lot of photos online themselves. One does weekly photos of the reception children including photos of each individual child with their name and work they have done. I was having a look through because considering that school for my child next year. I saw a child in the park and recognised him from the photos. Weirdly I know his name and what he's been doing at school, what class he's in etc. Obviously they wouldn't do it if a child was at risk but I still think it's far too much info out there.

PriamFarrl · 12/05/2023 22:45

Colourfingers2 · 12/05/2023 16:23

The Officer for Data Protection said a few years ago in a public statement that there is no lawful reason or precedent to prevent parents taking photos of their children at school plays and concerts.
I have no objection to anyone taking photos at my children’s school concerts and neither does my ex. But then my children are being educated in the Czech Republic as the education is better, the environment is safer and there are more fulfilling activities for them to do than here.
On the continent schools and jobs worth’s do not object to parents taking photographs of their children although I do have to say that foreigners have more sense than us British in this regard and do not believe that everyone is a rabid nonce because they are not whipped up into a permanent paranoia by their press.
After all what harm can such simple photographic momentoes do?
So yes you are being unreasonable in my opinion OP as is anyone else who thinks otherwise.

It’s not nonces that are the problem.

I know of a child who was in hiding from their father who was tracked down by him due to one Facebook post.
A parent had completely innocently taken a picture at a school event and posted it on Facebook, a friend like the post, this made the post visible to someone they were friends with who recognised a child in the background as that of another friend. Knowing that his friend was trying to locate his estranged child he showed his friend the post who then tracked down the child and mother.

That is just one case I know of, I’m sure it’s not the only one.

Bluebellsbells · 12/05/2023 22:48

My child cannot have her photo taken. So many times I've been labelled that parent or been put in difficult circumstances by the school because they fail to safeguard my child appropriately. So many comments by parents too who simply do not get it.

It's not by choice, it's a huge safeguarding risk.

JandalsAlways · 12/05/2023 22:48

Did anyone call them out on it?

PriamFarrl · 12/05/2023 22:50

StrongandNorthern · 12/05/2023 21:07

Completely agree that those people are selfish and stupid.
However - I wish schools would EXPLAIN CLEARLY/spell out the (safeguarding) issues. A lot of people simply don't understand ... and may be (at least a few) would comply more readily if they did.

The problem is that there is always a group of people who think the rules don’t apply to them.

Nanny0gg · 12/05/2023 22:51

Gypsyo · 12/05/2023 17:12

@Nanny0gg to be fair, as a member of the PTA and personal friends with a number of parents (and therefore on many groups on fb etc.) I've never seen anyone put pictures of the events on social media and they'd soon be reported if they did - I would certainly report any instances of this.

But that could be too late...

Bluebellsbells · 12/05/2023 22:54

I am not telling parents that my ex was so violent and abusive that he has no contact and a non mol. Or that he doesn't know where we are and if he finds us we could be in danger.

If a school says no photography for safeguarding reasons parents should comply or leave. It's not down to them knowing the finer details and making a judgment themselves.

PriamFarrl · 12/05/2023 22:57

Colourfingers2 · 12/05/2023 21:49

My ex moved back to the Czech Republic in 2017 when our daughter was due to start primary school. She didn’t get into the school we wanted and my ex said that I couldn’t just offer them money to give her a place because things don’t work like that anymore. She was a Nursery teacher and still is over there and also now interprets for Corporate Companies at meetings.
Anyway to cut a long story short, since you asked, the parenting our children get is excellent from both of us I work and live here to provide properly for our family and I paid off her mortgage on her house there when she went home so they have a permanent safe home. They are thriving in their English school over there and receiving a proper rounded education rather than being taught to the test which British education seems to have become since my day plus politically correct woke nonsense tailored to whatever pathetic whim is currently fashionable is not brought into the classroom.
They’ll go further than I ever could have in life and yes the school is privately funded partly by me and my beloved ex and partly by the scholarship our children earned for themselves.
State comprehensive never did me any good.

So your kid is in a private school. That is what makes it better. Not necessarily that it’s in Czechia.

WhiteBloatus · 12/05/2023 23:01

Catspyjamas17 · 12/05/2023 16:40

I think it's a bit off not to allow parents to take photos unless there are going to be official photos or videos available after. They could just ask not to put them on social media.

Agree.

whynotwhatknot · 12/05/2023 23:14

bloody hell what did everyone do before social media you'll live get over it

whynotwhatknot · 12/05/2023 23:14

not you op

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