The People demand that the Boats are Stopped.

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I keep reading about the Tory government working hard to deliver the people's priorities:

"Rishi Sunak and the Conservative Government are focused on five immediate priorities. We will halve inflation, grow the economy, reduce debt, cut NHS waiting lists and stop the boats."

Halve inflation (will happen anyway), grow the economy (vague), reduce debt (vague), cut NHS waiting lists (maybe by paying nurses and doctors more?), stop the boats (what?).

Maybe it's just where I live, but I'm not seeing this immediate urgent need to "stop the boats". It's certainly nowhere near my top 5 priorities for the government to be immediately tackling. If it was, I'd probably look at creating legal routes for genuine asylum seekers as a first step rather than shipping them to Rwanda.

Is it in your top 5 urgent government priorities? Are they speaking to the people and I've just completely missed it?

YABU: Stopping the boats is in my top 5 government priorities.
YANBU: I'm more concerned about something else and would bump Stop the Boats down the list.

They have literally just said on the news there will be net growth of legal and illegal newcomers of 700k this year . Where are they going to live .

@Florenz

Nobody crosses the channel from France to the UK because they are "desperate". They do it because they know we're a soft touch and we'll give them benefits and free housing.

I'd like to see supporting evidence for this assertion.

Except we don't. Asylum seekers do not have recourse to public funds (so no benefits) and most are 'housed' in appalling overcrowded shared houses or run down hotels. Slum landlords have found new ways to make money out of the government without providing even the basics of safe and clean accommodation.

And before anyone jumps on me about building on green field sites, I would rather see large redundant stores of which there are several in our closest local town repurposed into low cost flats ( not by HA's who will let them as social housing for a relatively short period of time then evict the tenants and sell on which happened here ) Flats on the upper floors and shops/cafes etc below like you see in a lot of European towns and cities.

They get an allowance so that could be considered a benefit as they wouldn't get that anywhere else
The housing is overcrowded because we are just not set up to deal with this number of migrants, some are infact in good hotels

They have literally just said on the news there will be net growth of legal and illegal newcomers of 700k this year . Where are they going to live .

By net growth do you mean an additional 700k this year or an increase of 200k ? how many of those will be people from Ukraine, Hong Kong, people who have finally found a safe route out of Afghanistan and are allowed here. How many of those 700k are the usual suspects, so students, people coming here to live and work on visa's, people legally joining family members etc ? The Government isn't shouting about the biggest immigration numbers because they know they are needed, far easier to shout about the smallest number and blame them for all the ills of the country and their policies over the last 13 years !

Asylum seekers have to sign on every week or at a few widely spaced home office centres. Many of the asylum seekers that I support end up having to spend all of their £45 a week simply getting to those centres to sign in. So nothing left for food, medications, clothes, toiletries etc. Or anything else

It doesn't matter where people come from , my issue is they are coming for a better life and we have nothing to offer . No decent housing , no infrastructure, broken public services etc etc

Do you genuinely believe that or are you just trolling?

@hattie43 It doesn't matter where people come from , my issue is they are coming for a better life and we have nothing to offer . No decent housing , no infrastructure, broken public services etc etc

Do you ever wonder why there is no decent housing, no infrastructure, broken public services and ever come up with an answer that doesn't involve simply blaming immigration ?

They get an allowance so that could be considered a benefit as they wouldn't get that anywhere else

@JustLollopingAlong they would get now than that in most countries. The UK gives then less of an appearance than most. They're also allowed to work in other countries. Those I work with are desperate to work, but our government doesn't allow it.

They cannot apply for any normal benefits. The £45 is all. And depending on whether accommodation is provided, many receive less.

They would get MORE than that, even

Ffs. Appearance= allowance. I'm very jet lagged.

Excellent post @Blackbyrd

Slow hand clap for the Tory government, for simultaneously failing to manage immigration and UK infrastructure whilst whipping up hatred for foreigners. Can’t wait to vote them out.

This is certainly a good poll OP. It highlights precisely why the UK will continue its decline.

Socialism + Porous borders = Fast-track to 3rd world shithole.

Brits want their cake, but also to share it with everyone else!

I know and agree @saraclara I was just trying to explain why some people think they get 'benefits'

I believe they get a payment of around £8 a week to help towards "essential items" if they are in full board accommodation.

With around 166,000 people awaiting an asylum decision that works out at around £69m a year. Which sounds a lot until you realise you could double it to £16 a week for the next 700 years and still not have spent the same amount that has been allocated to HS2.

Hell if the government funded the asylum system properly you wouldn't even need to be paying that out, nor would you need to worry about overcrowding.

It's all about priorities and the government do not want to sort this issue out as it's an absolutely brilliant distraction and topic they can turn to when ever times get tough.

In reality, illegal migration costs us very little and has very little impact on the country / population / services. But it's a very divisive issue that immediately polarises the public and is guaranteed to gain the government some support.

If you don't belive me ask yourself why, after 13 years in power and with an overwhelming majority for the past 7+ years, have the Conservatives not even attempted to get on top of this top 5"issue" in all that time?

True though @Dodgeitornot whether you agree or not
How can you plan for it ? We don't have a crystal ball

What I don’t think is this. That legal migrants need to be housed in hotels at a cost of £6m a day.

Live in the Midlands and it is in my top 5. When you are surrounded by young men filling the local hotels and harassing you, it will end up in your top 5 aswel. We are not talking about families with women and children included. These are lone men.

Can't go to the local park because women are harassed and men take pictures of your young children.

Girls walking home from school are being shouted at in the streets.

Can't even walk the dog round my area now without feeling uncomfortable. Having multiple men approach you and make suggestive comments.

Report it to the police and they are not interested.

sherbertyellowteddy. Out of sight out of mind for many here in their middle class bubbles.

No, we just have an underground economy where people disappear for a few years, then re appear, claim residency and call their families over.

What is the evidence to the contrary? None.

So anyone can make any assertion.

There are hotels where I am (not coastal SE), and it changes the community.
In a small village with a hotel, the percentage of men is noticeable.