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Cheeky-as-fuck neighbour

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SarahAndQuack · 09/05/2023 00:13

I live in an end-terrace. There are four houses which were once all owned by the same landlord. When we moved in, we were renting. The house had been rented for short periods by many people, and my adjourning neighbour had been there for years. At one point, apparently, she and the longer-term tenant of my house had shared the garden and used it as a joint allotment; at some even earlier point, all the four houses had outdoor privies in the back of what is now my garden. My neighbour isn't that elderly (60s), but she loves to tell me about how she used to be entitled to go into what's now my garden, and how she knows it better than me.

After renting for a couple of years, our house came up for sale and we bought it. My neighbour is used to us both having the same landlord, and she still seems to think she has access over my property. We've had to point out to the landlord's contractors that we won't allow access to her loft through our loft any more (in fact, we can't: it was a condition of sale that the access point between our lofts was bricked up, because it was a fire hazard). Recently, my neighbour has told me she will send her son into our garden to prune a tree that's on the boundary. She didn't ask: she told me. Her son isn't a tree surgeon or a gardener, and we're in a conservation area, where you need permission to prune trees of that size. As the tree is on the boundary, I'm naturally concerned we'll be held responsible - and we've not yet seen deeds to make clear where the boundary is, because we're still chasing land registry, and the title hasn't previously been split.

Is it me, or is she being incredibly cheeky?!

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billy1966 · 09/05/2023 10:07

GloriousGoosebumps · 09/05/2023 02:39

The Land Registry obviously isn't going to clear it's backlog for some time but surely your contract of sale had a plan attached which will show you what land was included? As for the gate into your garden, I'd be padlocking it to underline the message that she has no right to enter your garden. Would her landlord be jointly responsible if she illegally pruned the tree? If so I'd be informing him so that he can put a stop to her intention since he probably doesn't want a criminal conviction for something he didn't do.

Good advice here.

Email the landlord of your concerns that HIS tenant needs to be told that she will be breaking the law AND that your garden is no longer to be accessed by her.

Be very very firm.

AgathaX · 09/05/2023 10:35

You can check TPOs online. It will be on your county council website.

A tree with a TPO is different to a tree within a conservation area. Within conservation areas, all trees above a certain height are protected and specific permission is required to prune or fell.

Addymontgomeryfan · 09/05/2023 11:08

I'm really surprised that the boundary and rights of access wasn't sorted during the buying process.

My first house was a terrace with access rights across neighbours garden etc, and my solicitor made sure all boundary issues and access rights were dealt with and properly documented.

MinnieGirl · 09/05/2023 11:46

Addymontgomeryfan · 09/05/2023 11:08

I'm really surprised that the boundary and rights of access wasn't sorted during the buying process.

My first house was a terrace with access rights across neighbours garden etc, and my solicitor made sure all boundary issues and access rights were dealt with and properly documented.

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There is no way you should have bought that house without knowing exactly what was what. Especially as you had rented the property and knew the potential issues!
I would get back to the solicitor who did your house purchase and ask why this wasn’t made clear.

mumda · 09/05/2023 12:19

You need your deeds and their deeds and to sit down and discuss what they mean.

Some older terraces have odd rights of access for bins / privets / etc which are utterly bonkers in today's society.

starfishmummy · 09/05/2023 12:29

If your garden has - or had - the privvies for the whole terrace it is possible that the neighbours have right of access to get to them. This will usually be a specific path which they can walk along, but only that path. (You can't decide to move it without permission from the other people). I'm surprised that your sale went through without having all the relevant documents.

HappiestSleeping · 09/05/2023 22:37

CheshireDing · 09/05/2023 07:42

When you say ‘bought it’ have you actually completed on the purchase or just had a purchase price agreed ?

If it has actually competed then you should already know your plot boundaries as this would have been discussed as part of the conveyancing work.

Is it that you are waiting for the Land Registry to attend to do a site survey on the land to split the split ? If so then you need to wait for this to be done before exchanging

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IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls · 09/05/2023 22:59

I would tread gently.

We have an old terrace where the deeds state right of access across land.

OrwellianTimes · 09/05/2023 23:05

Surely this is all outlined in the deeds?

SoupDragon · 10/05/2023 09:30

OrwellianTimes · 09/05/2023 23:05

Surely this is all outlined in the deeds?

the OP hasn't got them yet.

Andithoughtiwasspecial · 11/05/2023 08:27

Copies of the deeds and a report on them will have been supplied to you before you exchanged or completed. If you are unsure read this report and documents again and if still unsure ask your Conveyancer.

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