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Why is so easy to marry and so complex to divorce?

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SophisticatedWoman · 28/04/2023 21:21

Obviously it is difficult and complex to divide finances and agree custody of children. Why is it made so easy to enter into a marriage without any legal guidance.

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FarmGirl78 · 29/04/2023 14:22

I don't think you should be 'made' to get financial advice/education before marriage, but that's probably because I'm a geek and I'd made sure I knew what I was getting into practically, not just the lovey dovey stuff. I'm fed up to the back teeth with people doing grown up serious stuff without due diligence and then blaming others "but nobody told me" if it goes tits up.

People need to take responsibility for the own actions.

CaroleSinger · 29/04/2023 15:12

Because marriage is a serious commitment you don't just go into all will nill without thinking things through properly.

midsomermurderess · 29/04/2023 15:42

@CaroleSinger The thing is you can enter into marriage without really thinking much about it. All you need is to be at least 16, not presently married, entering into it freely with the capacity to consent. I’m not sure the state should be adding other conditions. That is, I suppose, open to debate. Getting out of a marriage, on the other hand, well, that is a bit more difficult.

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 29/04/2023 15:45

What legal guidance do you think should be in place to make marriage harder?

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 29/04/2023 15:47

RosesAndHellebores · 28/04/2023 22:31

I didn't find getting married easy.
I had to kiss too many frogs
Go to parties and dinners and balls
Happen upon a male thing I liked (looks and personality)
Hope they would phone me up
Have some dates, agonising over what to wear
Meet their friends
Meet their family
Get to know them some more
Discover their foibles and share mine
Test out their morals, loyalty, work ethic, politics, approach to money, children, art, food, music, drama, literature
Say yes
Organise the church, chat to the vicar
Book the dates
Chose the readings and music
Flowers, cake, orders of service, invitations, reception, etc
Thank you letters
Honeymoon
Pre-nup.

I don't recall it being particularly easy to get married. All happened 35 years ago and I can't comment on divorce.

Success arises I believe from preparation, preparation, preparation.

Most of those things are totally optional and not remotely necessary for any kind of marriage.

midsomermurderess · 29/04/2023 15:56

@coffeecupsandwaxmelts , exactly they aren’t, but they bring a warming glow of smugness to Roses, something many of us have encountered before.

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 29/04/2023 15:57

midsomermurderess · 29/04/2023 15:56

@coffeecupsandwaxmelts , exactly they aren’t, but they bring a warming glow of smugness to Roses, something many of us have encountered before.

Ah, I missed the username Wink

WallaceinAnderland · 29/04/2023 16:01

Marriage is a legal contract.

Any legal contract is easy to get into but complex if you want to breach the contract.

LlynTegid · 29/04/2023 16:06

Marriage is something people have done almost since humans came along. Despite all the complexities of modern society, the only things that have changed are minimum ages, where you can hold the ceremony, and in the last decade, that it can be between two women or two men.

The law assumes the same option to marry if both persons are single, regardless of the age of each person, if they have been married before or not, and does not require any period of notice of any length. The man (usually but not always) who dumps his wife when aged over 40, then re-marries, and then repeats the same behaviour, is treated when it comes to marrying as two people aged the same who have never been married.

If it was me, there would be some different requirements and notice period where there is a significant difference in ages and/or wealth. If it could be done, also on previous behaviour.

midsomermurderess · 29/04/2023 16:43

@LlynTegid But should the state be able to intervene to that extent, when the parties involved have the base legal competence to enter into a marriage? On what basis? You don’t, for undefined reasons, actually have competence to contact a marriage, not due to mental impairment, but various extraneous matter? How would that work? Adults, whether you like it or not, surely must broadly be left to make their own choices, live their own lives.

RosesAndHellebores · 29/04/2023 16:45

@coffeecupsandwaxmelts @midsomermurderess thank you for your comments and observations. Of course non of those things are obligatory for marriage per se but they certainly are if the marriage is to have a fighting chance of being successful. Marriage is sacrosanct and involves promises made before God.

GneissGuysFinishLast · 29/04/2023 16:59

RosesAndHellebores · 29/04/2023 16:45

@coffeecupsandwaxmelts @midsomermurderess thank you for your comments and observations. Of course non of those things are obligatory for marriage per se but they certainly are if the marriage is to have a fighting chance of being successful. Marriage is sacrosanct and involves promises made before God.

Did Jesus demand you kiss some frogs? Sounds kinda creepy tbh.

Parker231 · 29/04/2023 20:13

blueshoes · 28/04/2023 21:58

@Daffodilwoman thank god times have moved on.

Agreed! We’d have remained unmarried if we had to marry in a church! Big hotel wedding for us - after 25 years still going strong!

User135644 · 29/04/2023 20:17

Maybe because marriage is supposed to be for life. Why even get married?

x2boys · 29/04/2023 20:29

I think it depends on circumstances?
My sister and her ex husband divorced about four years ago their kids were then 15 and 17 so almost grown they found it relatively easy he divorced her on the grounds of unreasonable behaviour which we did accept ,and they had a very large house with a decent amount of equity which they sp!it she got a smaller property which she bought outright and he got a bigger property with a loan from his parents,
there was no animosity regarding where their boys lived boy
the younger one decided to live with his dad and the older one was going to university,but regards is mum's house as home,when he's on holiday from uni,it's fairly amicable.

x2boys · 29/04/2023 20:29

She did accept*

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