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To think a 'Titanic Dining Experience' is grim AF?

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FettleOfKish · 26/04/2023 21:05

Being advertised locally on Facebook.

The Queen of the Ocean is a totally immersive theatre and dining experience based on the RMS Titanic. Serving up a 4 course recreation of the final meal on board, we take you back to a world of ocean class liners, opulence and extravagance as a heartfelt and poignant story is played out around your table

AIBU to think that this is a bit much, staging an 'immersive dining experience' based on an event in which 1000s of people died awfully shortly afterwards?

What next for the production company? A lavish Lunch in the last hours of Chernobyl? The real Pie & Peas Hillsborough experience? Maybe a final breakfast at the top of the World Trade Centre?

I know there has been films and documentaries and a tourist industry all based around Titanic but this just struck me as even more distasteful, turning it into a fun and frivolous night out.

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sashh · 27/04/2023 01:19

Not the point of the thread but a 'four course' dinner is not a Titanic dinner. You would need to stat first or second class (third class had 'tea' in the evening and their main meal while 1st and 2nd had lunch).

FettleOfKish · 27/04/2023 07:58

Titanic was far more luxurious than Olympic or Mauritania. It was unmatched for opulence and was very famous in its time well before the disaster. Plus it's a far more well-known name than either of the others.

The same kind of platitudes could be given to Windows on the World at the World Trade Centre in terms of its iconic situation, height, uniqueness, unrivalled views of New York.

You'd be unlikely to see a fun dining experience based on the last breakfast it served before 9/11 though.

If the experience I shared was nothing to do with the disaster why not make it the first dinner of the maiden voyage, rather than the last? It was just as opulent 4 days earlier.

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BitchFaceResting · 27/04/2023 08:01

FettleOfKish · 26/04/2023 21:05

Being advertised locally on Facebook.

The Queen of the Ocean is a totally immersive theatre and dining experience based on the RMS Titanic. Serving up a 4 course recreation of the final meal on board, we take you back to a world of ocean class liners, opulence and extravagance as a heartfelt and poignant story is played out around your table

AIBU to think that this is a bit much, staging an 'immersive dining experience' based on an event in which 1000s of people died awfully shortly afterwards?

What next for the production company? A lavish Lunch in the last hours of Chernobyl? The real Pie & Peas Hillsborough experience? Maybe a final breakfast at the top of the World Trade Centre?

I know there has been films and documentaries and a tourist industry all based around Titanic but this just struck me as even more distasteful, turning it into a fun and frivolous night out.

No worse than the restaurant that is totally dark. You cannot see wxhere you are going, who you are sitting with or near, not can you see what you are about to eat or how you will eat it
Is this taking the piss out of blind people? Is this no less offensive than a titanic expeience?

BitchFaceResting · 27/04/2023 08:03

listsandbudgets · 26/04/2023 21:15

"immersive" bad choice of words given being "immersed" in water is what causes drowning.

Someone has not thought this out - this is disturbing

You should submit your other ideas to them though - if they're prepared to be this distasteful they will probably embrace them.

YADNBU

Oh get a grip! And immersion in water does not a priori, lead to drowning
Ffs....

Loria · 27/04/2023 08:07

It would be quite funny though if people spent loads of money on tickets and the organisers drowned them. You know like some kind of 'Hostel' type scenario, and they could say that folks deliberately bought tickets to be drowned and it was all in the guest info.

FettleOfKish · 27/04/2023 08:23

@BitchFaceResting Honestly, I wouldn't go to the experience you mention either for different reasons, but this isn't a 'which of these things is more awful' thread, it's a 'AIBU to think this particular thing is awful' thread.

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Groggygymdodger · 27/04/2023 08:30

This type of thing has been going on for ever, you yourself actually even went to the Jack the Ripper museum. That wasn’t learning it was pure entertainment and curiosity, that museum is fucking ghoulish, it’s turned women’s murders into an entertainment experience.

Things from a long time ago folks do this shit for entertainment. You included.

it’s not my bag, but it is for many. You included.

Deadpalm · 27/04/2023 08:39

Lots of things which "fly" are based on some bad event before. I would even go to Chernobyl. I think 100 years is enough to be able to use it.

No worse than the restaurant that is totally dark. You cannot see wxhere you are going, who you are sitting with or near, not can you see what you are about to eat or how you will eat it
Is this taking the piss out of blind people? Is this no less offensive than a titanic expeience?

Actually there are some. They are staffed by blind and VI people and are trying to bring awareness of difficulties when you never had/lose sight. IIRC most blind were not born blind so it dawns on quite a few people that that could be them in dark once. All over Europe afaik.

AgnesX · 27/04/2023 08:43

I can't see the problem really. The concept behind Titanic was luxury. Even third class was luxurious by standards of the day.

It's something I'd be interested in.

FettleOfKish · 27/04/2023 08:45

@Groggygymdodger And I said in my post that we went misguidedly and it was awful. I didn't know that until I was in it. Having just read The Five about the lives of the victims I'd hoped it would be more about the time, the area, the victims, and the investigation. It was none of that. I hold my hand up, it was a mistake that I unfortunately didn't see coming.

I've also been to the Holocaust museum and Anne Frank's House and people in their 1000s go to the 9/11 museum and they all manage to tell important horrific parts of human history without being ghoulish or overtly entertaining. Same may go for the Titanic museum, I've never been so I'm not sure.

But a museum or a book or a documentary or even a dramatised film still isn't a jolly old dinner at the Captain's table with lashings of champagne and 'oh god, iceberg right ahead'.

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SussexBonfireViking · 27/04/2023 09:04

Mostar · 26/04/2023 21:48

Instead of Titanic they could just have had the big fucking ocean liner royal yacht Britannia. Dine like a seafaring monarch and enjoy the finest roast swan, quail fillets, scotch eggs, etc. Sorted.

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whumpthereitis · 27/04/2023 09:10

'immersive dining experience'

Snort

“if you manage to make the lifeboats, remember to leave a 5* review on TripAdvisor!”

Wallsofglass · 27/04/2023 09:18

Rightly or wrongly , all of the other possible experiences you mentioned would be very popular with a certain Instagram crowd. The amount of Chernobyl urban explorer videos is crazy.

Laiste · 27/04/2023 09:19

Fromage · 26/04/2023 21:29

Does it end with a game of "Door or No Door" and you have to cling onto an oik from steerage until he freezes?

I mean a meal, the theme, is a terrible idea. How grim.

😂

But on a serious note YANBU OP. Horrible idea to turn the traumatic deaths of a lot of people including children into a fun dinning experience.

I mean ... oh yes, i'd love my pate served to the sounds of the children in steerage screaming as they drown in freezing water locked behind gates ...

who in their right minds?

gettingolderbutcooler · 27/04/2023 09:52

'Immersive'
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misssunshine4040 · 27/04/2023 10:31

Have you seen the titanic birthday cakes you get?
I can't get my head round celebrating your birthday with a cake of a sinking ship that killed so many.

To think a 'Titanic Dining Experience' is grim AF?
To think a 'Titanic Dining Experience' is grim AF?
Dotjones · 27/04/2023 10:46

I made a comment about someone's Titanic-themed party once, they came back with the line "There's nobody alive today who was killed on the Titanic" which, to be fair, I couldn't argue with.

I don't know where the line is drawn though - is there a cut-off where a tragedy becomes an acceptable target for entertainment? Countless films about WWII were made in the years after it, even during it. I suppose they, like this Titanic "experience" are meant as a release from everyday reality.

CuriousMoo · 27/04/2023 10:55

Weird and grim. I'm also always astounded by how proud Belfast is of the Titanic. It's like a tourist attraction there. Yet it sank and so many people died because it was badly equipped. Total disaster caused by human error.

And the Jack the Ripper "museum" is even worse because it originally got planning permission to be a museum of women's history. And instead they sell mugs decorated with the fake blood of murdered women.

I feel like the period of "too soon" is getting shorter as well. I can kind of understand people doing mediaeval battle reenactments for fun, but not entertaining yourself with relatively recent wars, murders and disasters!

REP22 · 27/04/2023 10:55

I've been interested in the Titanic since the wreck was discovered in 1985. I well remember the distress of a local survivor in Southampton when he found that a 'gift' company (I think it was Nauticalia) were peddling a novelty bath toy of an inflatable Titanic accompanied by an inflatable iceberg. You could lie in the bath and float them towards each other.

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 27/04/2023 10:59

Different strokes for different folks - it's an odd concept to say the least (especially the Chernobyl experience, bloody hell). I wouldn't do it personally.

LilyDivine · 27/04/2023 11:51

YANBU - That is weird and distasteful.

L1ttledrummergirl · 27/04/2023 14:06

I bought this book over 25 years ago as I loved the concept of an elegant dinner party where you all got dressed up to remember a bygone era.

The recipes are all there for each course. This isn't a new idea.

To think a 'Titanic Dining Experience' is grim AF?
To think a 'Titanic Dining Experience' is grim AF?
FettleOfKish · 27/04/2023 14:30

@L1ttledrummergirl See I don't think thats quite as grim as making a profit making event / party out of it. People are interested in the Titanic and that period of time, it's fascinating, so it follows that it's interesting to know what was served for dinner and so on (I'm genuinely interested to know if it includes steerage meals?).

If you had people round to dress in 1910s attire and play 'guess who survives' while thrashing around in an ice chilled jacuzzi afterwards, it'd be a different thing.

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Deadpalm · 27/04/2023 15:02

If you had people round to dress in 1910s attire and play 'guess who survives' while thrashing around in an ice chilled jacuzzi afterwards, it'd be a different thing.

They didn't tho as well... Obviously.
It looks like it was dinner with acting and information.

To think a 'Titanic Dining Experience' is grim AF?
L1ttledrummergirl · 27/04/2023 15:25

@FettleOfKish, yes it had menus from every kitchen, using examples from other ships at the time.

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