Which countries specifically do you think/feel/know to be better governed than the UK?

[EffortlessDesmond]

Lots of posters pile on to threads to condemn the UK, and apart from Scandinavian countries with generally much smaller populations and larger land masses, dont actually make constructive comments. I already know that Brexit has not improved anything. So please, can someone tell me where public policy is actively improving the quality of life for the population?

I also believe that due to my working class background I would not have been able to become senior management/ higher earner due to the class factor had I stayed in the UK.

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This is a huge thing. The class difference in the UK makes an absolutely enormous difference to so many aspects: politics, education, work etc. It really represses a lot of people.

No, not in the slightest. I know people like to hate on Australia over here but the standard of living for the majority of people is vastly superior to the U.K.

Healthcare is miles better, local services like libraries, bins, roads, local pools, countryside and wildlife, public transport, all the things you notice day to day are miles better.
Housing is expensive mainly because of wild levels of immigration but on every other metric I can’t think of anything Australia does worse than the U.K.

Literally anywhere at the moment.

Only thing that comes to mind is how genderism is entrenched here.

In the U.K.? I’ve not noticed that really, outside of a few lefty places and online a bit.

Cuba has better health care and better education and very little crime. Shame the economy is so bad and poverty is such an issue.

No, I meant here in Australia.

Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic.

Sweden, New Zealand

Any evidence for this?

I don’t think it is at all is it? Isn’t genderism where you think women should act feminine and men masculine? I don’t think Australian women are girlyfied in the slightest and outside of maybe country outback towns I don’t think men feel the need to be particularly masculine. Otherwise why is there the fashion for the moustache and mullet? It’s hardly a masculine look 😁

On Aus and UK, the two countries I know very well I’d say it depends what you’re after

London is a great city for us but I’m also very glad to have the option of Aus as they have addressed issues the U.K. will find very hard to resolve

London and generally is providing really good opportunities for my dc but those Aus passports are gold to me

We've always had these things though. Seems to me it's only been in the last 10 years that people have really started to get upset with the UK. I remember up until the 2012 olympics at least that there was genuine national pride across the country.

I'm certainly not saying that right now we are well governed, just not necessarily blaming the system.

The UK is the only place where it pays to not work,

Oh blimey, no. Genderism is the whole trans stuff. No calling men men if they declare they're women, no keeping them out of our toilets or changing rooms or prisons, no referring to your rapist as he if he claims he's a woman, no refusing to put your child on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.

I think a lot of people go on holiday and see the country through a completely different lens. They go to the nicely kept holiday destinations and think that's how everyone lives

It's like foreigners visiting the Cotswolds and thinking we all live in limestone houses in quaint pretty villages

That's not to say that we couldn't learn a lot from other countries but they don't all live in some sort of utopia.

I love the way people assume other countries aren't having the same issues, or different but comparable problems. Honestly there's issues most places, and sometimes it's only apparent if you live there, i have connections to one of the much cited amazing places to live according to this thread yet the people living there are moaning about all the problems plus the government taking so much money in taxes, everything too expensive etc.

@Lockheart have you been to Paris? They have horrible high rise suburbs, terrible issues... it's not all like the gentrified centre

Oh right. But we don’t have that in Australia, again maybe online and in a few universities but not in real day to day life.

Google Sall Grover and you might need to revise that opinion.

I know plenty of Germans who would disagree with you!

I've lived in Germany and agree with PPs that it's far better run than here. Regional government has real power and accountability and at the national level, ministers are expected to be on top of their brief - and, crucially, given time to master it. In all her years as Chancellor, Angela Merkel made fewer than 20 changes to her cabinet. Compare that to our 5 Chancellors of the Exchequer in a year last year.

But that’s just online nonsense - not things that actually affect 99% of every day life.
I would say that in terms of gender stuff the U.K. and Aus are similar. Aus didn’t go down the puberty blockers line, thank goodness but in terms of all the chit chat about it, it’s not something that affects people’s daily life outside of maybe the occasional social studies course.

If this is meant to be saying that benefits are too high here, they are much lower than in most European countries. The poor education system, entrenched class structures and lack of investment in vocational training here are far more responsible for long term unemployment. Read something other than the Daily Mail.

Agree with what you've said, but the reality is people on benefits get more than I do working ATM🤷. Not benefit bashing at all as benefits are crucial.....and one day I may need to claim....but it shouldn't be that someone claiming benefits earns more than a person working.