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Is this behaviour manipulative? How to handle it?

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Eotsn · 16/04/2023 01:36

Parent plays music (techno) very loudly on all car journeys. Asks child if they like the music. Child reluctantly admits that they do not. Parent tells child that this is not a nice thing to say, it is hurtful, disappointing and that child should make more effort to like it because parent likes it. Parent continues to play music loudly. A couple of days later, parent asks child again if child likes the music. Child says yes.

Parent has lost a friend tragically. When discussing it with child, child says that the deceased person is in a better place, trying to comfort parent. Parent then says, "oh so if I died you wouldn't bother crying, you'd just say oh well, they're in a better place. You probably wouldn't even care if I died". Child is becoming nervous and self conscious of what they say, in case they cause upset to someone. Child now feels that they are always saying the wrong thing.

If child is unwell and does not see parent at the weekend, parent will say, "you probably weren't even sick, I think you just didn't want to see me". Child has said that they now feel guilty and will be anxious when next seeing parent.

Parent is always looking for sympathy. Every time child sees parent there is something wrong. If child does not make enough fuss over parent and does not give enough sympathy parent will say things like (imitating child's voice) "oh you'll be fine, I'm off now meeting my friend, too busy to worry or care about you". Child then feels guilty.

Child has once asked other parent to speak to this parent about an issue. They did, and child was told off and made to feel incredibly guilty for telling.

There is a lot more, but those are some examples. I want to know what this behaviour is? Child in this situation is sensitive as it is and a very deep thinker. I don't know how to help them.

OP posts:
Eotsn · 16/04/2023 22:59

@AliceOlive it sounds like you have it well figured out. I'm glad for you that things are good now. You seem like you've spent a lot of time reflecting on it and making your peace with it.
DCs are very close in age but other DC is waiting for an assessment. Possible autism, definitely not neurotypical. This might be part of the reason why the guilt tripping and emotional manipulation don't seem to work. He wouldn't give a toss if his father was unhappy with him. Unfortunately deep meaningful conversation wouldn't be his strong point.
Other DS is close to my siblings, so maybe one of them would be good for him to spean to.

@HappyBunnyNow thank you, that's so helpful. I'm sorry you're going through it too. There is a family support type of service available to me so I will definitely look to them for advice. We've been divorced for years. DC witnessed abuse, and the atmosphere was terrible most of the time, so I left when they were young. I've always been very careful not to say anything negative about ex. For some reason I didn't foresee him treating the DCs like this. I always hoped that they would grow up to have a good relationship with him, but right now my feeling is that DC1 will continue to see him out of obligation and guilt, DC2 will go along with it because that's what his brother is doing, but long term there will be no meaningful relationship there.

It's so sad, I love and respect my parents very much, and I know they would do anything for us. My heart breaks for them that they don't have that from both parents.

@HappyBunnyNow@HappyBunnyNow

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LibrariansGiveUsPower · 16/04/2023 23:22

Classic narcissistic abuse. Is this your ex?

Weallgottachangesometime · 16/04/2023 23:28

God this parent sounds awful. Your poor child. must be terrible to feel everything you say is used against you. Can you stop/reduce contact.

I’m not sure if you can stop contact but if not I’d be tempted to talk the child through some of these Incidences and reflect with them on how actually it’s not normal behaviour for a parent to act this way. Hopefully helping them to see it is the parent at fault and not them.

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