Presentation - I don't want to be arsey

[ImJustMadAboutSaffron]

I'm working on a presentation I'm delivering at a symposium in about three weeks' time. This is a joint presentation with a colleague. The colleague doesn't have a PhD. Would you put on the front intro slide:

Jim Brown (job title) and Saffron MellowYellow (job title) or
Mr Jim Brown (job title) and Dr Saffron MellowYellow (job title) ??

It's assumed I have a doctorate anyway but I don't want to look like "pulling rank" especially as Jim has done the majority of the work and came up with the topic. The order of names is alphabetical.

Thanks.

Use the Dr. title. You earned it, and I'd bet good money that Jim would use it if the situation were reversed.

Look at it the opposite way. If Jim had a title and you didn't, would you be bothered that he used his? My guess is no, you wouldn't care.

My point is that your title will be included in the proceedings/programme/whatever.

include it if it’s relevant. Otherwise it just looks a bit like you’re trying to insert random info to big yourself up

You've earned the title of Dr, why wouldn't you use it for fear of 'worrying' a man. Honestly USE IT

Please use Dr! As others have said...you bloody earned it 👍 And as you said...if it was the other way round and your male colleague was the Dr, you can be sure he wouldn't even be questioning this!

I can't see what difference it would make if its not relevant to the presentation and mostly his work anyway. I'd just put your first and last names. You don't need to impress anyone, you know you've got the qualification, that should be enough. I never use mine unless relevant but I know some people feel the need to have their post addressed to them in this way., My previous neighbour always did this. Think he needed to impress others though.

I tend not use any of my titles, but sometimes as a woman, you have to , because otherwise people generally defer to the man/men.

Just use your bloody title woman. A bloke wouldn’t think twice about describing himself accurately for fear of offending another bloke.

In my work it would be Jim Brown and Dr Saffron MellowYellow.

You are absolutely only questioning this because you’re a woman. If the situation were reversed, he wouldn’t think twice.

Google uncredentialing

Just chiming in to say - use your title! You are not undermining Jim to include 'Dr' in your details, just as you would in his, if he had one.

I work with someone without a doctorate and I sign off with Dr on such things. But then it's a slightly different audience and we're quite happy leveraging the Dr thing for the collective benefit of our work.

This! I would absolutely use the Dr title.

Either is fine. What makes you think people/ Jim will think you’re pulling rank?
Is that what you would think?

Does it need names on?
Can you delegate him to write the front page? See what he puts. If I was doing it and my colleague or boss was Dr at the office I'd put Dr in the front.

If you decide to make the decision I'd either go with no names and just say them verbally at the intro or put his name first on the grounds that he is junior and I like to offer up the credit where I can, more so if I dont need it.

In some careers it becomes more important to be seen to be a good leader and helping colleagues up than proving yourself to peers so consider which is more important. Perhaps it's the former for you if you want to build your name externally.

I've been in this situation in academia several times as I've collaborated with colleagues without PhDs (I have a PhD). I tend to ask what they'd prefer for their own title first (with a presumption that my title will be on there). It usually ends up being Ms XX XX and Dr NikNak.

Job titles are good but absolutely use your Dr title - it gives credibility assuming relevant to your presentation

Agreed. You worked hard on this - no point hiding your Dr status just because somebody else doesn't have it. You earned the title.

Would you have Dr on the slide if it was just you alone? If so, keep it on.

I work in academia and we use our titles. Often those without a PhD or Prof title leave it out but I think it's up to the individual - just put it in and get him to proof read and change anything he'd prefer

Use your title - I think it is important that women do use their titles in academic settings.

Make your status and expertise clear - woman have to be better than mediocre men unfortunately- use your Dr title and put PhD at the end so there is no doubt of your authority.

I'd go with
Jim Brown (job title) and Dr Mellow Yellow (job title)

This happens a lot on my place. We wouldn't ever put PhD as suffix, and wouldn't put any title other than Dr or Prof on.

hth

In my circles the cover slide would be job titles only, no honorifics. The session moderator would then do the introduction as Dr MadaboutSaffron gained her PhD in widgets in New Caledonia, working since to blah blah, and Jim has been studying diversity in widgets (or whatever)

Why does no one read the OP? Saffron never suggested that she would put her name first or take credit for his work!

OP I would put Dr or Ph.D. If Jim had a PHD no doubt he wouldn't think twice. Good luck!

This. I'm an academic, we use our titles all the time. To not use it would be odd and essentially demoting and downplaying your expertise. He goes first if he did the lion share of work but you keep the title.

IME titles are irrelevant, only names and relevant qualifications.
As it's 'assumed' you have a doctorate it's a relevant qualification - so put it.
Just like you would CEng (Chartered Engineer), or whatever.

What people assume or otherwise from the title is irrelevant. Sadly as you're the woman they will probably assume it's him with the doctorate and not you if you don't state it upfront.