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I feel suffocated by my mum

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Iwantchocolate5 · 10/04/2023 10:51

Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this before? Any advice would be appreciated.

My mum was a single parent for most of my childhood, after divorcing my dad when I was 5. My dad wasn’t in the picture at all whilst I was growing up and we have only just started talking again after having no contact for over 20 years. I’m 28 now. I know he didn’t contribute financially when I was a child, was physically and mentally abusive, manipulative, cheated. We nearly lost the house and became homeless because he tried to take it off her during the divorce (my mum told me all of this when I was older, not as a child, and only because I asked). In all fairness, my mum has never talked badly about my dad in front of me, although I wouldn’t blame her if she did. Both of my parents were alcoholics - well, dad still is, mum stopped around 8 years ago after losing her driving licence for driving under the influence and nearly losing her job. She honestly has changed her life around and I couldn’t be more proud of her.

Things weren’t easy when I was growing up (for both of us). My grandma played a huge part in my life and looked after me most days so mum could work as she couldn’t afford full time child care. I know my grandma use to get upset with my mum for the drinking. My mum was an abusive drunk. I feel awful for saying it but she really was. She would come home from a night out and start a fight with me for no reason. I would be in bed and she’d barge in and start shouting and swearing at me. I’d beg her to go to sleep but she’d stay up for hours into the night just arguing with me. She use to snap a lot and did hit me on the odd occasion if I spoke back. I never told my family about the hitting though. The amount of times she knocked herself out from being absolutely wasted and would end up in the hospital. She came home so many times with black eyes from falling over/hurting herself. She was never a happy/funny drunk if that makes sense.

Things got so bad that my grandma told her she would only look after me so she could work, and not for nights out, but my mum just found someone else to babysit so she could drink. My grandma didn’t like that and gave in and told her to bring me back as she didn’t want anyone else looking after me. As I got older I wanted to stay at home more so I could be with my friends (grandma lived around 30 mins away) and my grandma hated this and would always beg me to stay at her house when she knew my mum was going out as she knew what would happen. My auntie tried her best to intervene as well and tried to take me out of the home (without involving social services as she knew mum would never forgive her if she called them) but the older I got the more I pushed back as I just wanted to go out with my friends and both my auntie and grandma lived further away. My education suffered for a couple of years and I did go off the rails a bit when I was around 15-16, not turning up to school, taking drugs, smoking, hanging around with the wrong people etc. I know this made the situation worse and caused more problems at home.

My mum only really sought help after losing her licence, nearly her job and meeting my step dad, as he told her he would leave her if she didn’t sort herself out. She hasn’t drank now for over 8 years and she is like a different person. We have a much better relationship now because of it. I also moved out when I was 21 and I feel we get on much better now that we live apart. We did also have some family counselling years ago but that didn’t go on for long. She has always apologised for my childhood, and to this day I still think she carries some sort of guilt around with her. The issue I have now, is that my mum can be very overbearing and I honestly feel suffocated at times. We speak every day, sometimes 2-3 times a day. She initiates the contact. Obviously I want to speak to my mum but once a day, or even every other day would be enough for me. For example, yesterday she called at 3pm, had a quick chat then said she’d call me back later that night. She’d already called yesterday morning. She constantly texts me, I mean literally all day and if I don’t respond she will call or keep texting until I respond. She turns up to my house unannounced. She has gone into my house before whilst I’ve been at home and cleaned. It’s her way of “helping”, even though she knows I suffer with OCD tendencies and like to clean/sort the house out myself. Another example, on Saturday she rang me early morning, I was getting ready to go out and told her I was leaving soon, she turned up, but then apologised and said she knew I was going out! Ffs, why? It makes me feel awkward and if I don’t invite her in, I feel guilty for it.

She constantly wants to know every detail of my life. If I start dating someone, she will ask me nonstop questions about him. If she knows I’m going on a date she will constantly text me until I respond. She rings me every night after work to ask how work was? I’ve been in my job for 3 years. Nothing’s changed. I know she’s trying to be nice, but sometimes I just want to have my tea and go to bed after a long day. I’ve tried to tell her before that she needs to stop, but she either gets defensive and I feel guilty for upsetting her, or she does stop for a few days and then starts again. I’m knackered with it all. I’ve spoken to my auntie about this a few times and she thinks it’s because my mum is trying to make up for what happened during my childhood. I know she feels guilty about the past and wants to do what she can do now that I’m older to make up for it, but it’s just too much. I don’t necessarily blame her for what happened when I was a child tbh. I think my dad played a huge part in why my mum had problems. I just can’t take it anymore though. I’m 28 years old, a fully grown woman with a home and life of my own. I feel suffocated, and from speaking to friends and family I don’t know anyone else who speaks to their parent as much as I do.

It goes without saying, I love my mum very much but I can’t take it anymore. Please help.

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AprilFool23 · 10/04/2023 10:57

Seems like she's swapped one form of harassment and abuse for another.

She appears, being kind, to have some mental health issues and needs to urgently seek counselling/help.

You're going to have to establish as many boundaries as you can and stick to them like glue unfortunately.

I find it rather sickening that she didn't stop drinking, knowing she was abusing you while drunk, until her money was threatened and until a man she was involved with told her he'd not stay with her if she didn't stop. But she wouldn't stop for her child. Now she's abusing you a different way too. I doubt she'll ever be right, but she needs to get counselling and be dealt with with zero tolerance in the meantime.

AprilFool23 · 10/04/2023 11:03

I have a sister who's similar in incidentally; not with the harassing of her adult child, but the rest.

Her son has lived with my Mum/his Granny for quite a while, before that he lived in my vacant home and before that some house shares ... Because of similar behaviour by her (and her second husband who unfortunately is not like your Mum's partner, but is also alcohol dependant).

She has cut way down on drinking in order to work full-time because they had spent any savings/lump sum pension/compensation/inheritances they got and can't get benefits and can't get a council house (yet). But that was it, the only reason for cutting down; money and pragmatism about her circumstances. Not how she was treating her son . ... And everyone else who'd pick up the phone to her while whe was drinking - for years.

I'm sorry to say it but they are fundamentally selfish and mal adjusted; and the drinking/drunk behaviour is just a symptom.

AprilFool23 · 10/04/2023 11:05

It's still all about her; not your welfare, not respect for you, nor decency towards you.

I'm afraid that's the issue that even counselling may never solve.

AprilFool23 · 10/04/2023 11:11

we have only just started talking again after having no contact for over 20 years. I’m 28 now. I know he didn’t contribute financially when I was a child, was physically and mentally abusive, manipulative, cheated. We nearly lost the house and became homeless because he tried to take it off her during the divorce (my mum told me all of this when I was older, not as a child, and only because I asked). In all fairness, my mum has never talked badly about my dad in front of me, although I wouldn’t blame her if she did. Both of my parents were alcoholics - well, dad still is

He does not sound like a good person to have in your life tbh.

People like that rarely change, and he's still alcohol dependant.

Your grandmother is the only person coming out if this looking decent. I feel for her with her/your situation growing up. But most of all you.

Babyface01 · 10/04/2023 11:16

Coukd your mum be lonely? It sounds like she is bored and maybe using you as a focus to break up her day. Maybe try suggest a hobby or some sort of class where she can meet new people.

LadyGardenersQuestionTime · 10/04/2023 11:26

Time for some clear boundaries I would say. Decide how much contact you can accept from her - one message or call or text a day? - tell her again that that's what's happening, and then stick to it religiously. After one (or whatever you choose) ignore her calls, don't reply to her texts.

Of course she will get defensive/keep trying/maybe get upset to start with but it will sink in eventually. You might want to set yourself up some kind of reward for yourself for sticking to it at your end to help you stick to the plan.

AprilFool23 · 10/04/2023 11:29

Babyface01 · 10/04/2023 11:16

Coukd your mum be lonely? It sounds like she is bored and maybe using you as a focus to break up her day. Maybe try suggest a hobby or some sort of class where she can meet new people.

My Mum is lonely sometimes, she doesn't act like this towards any of us.

It sounds compulsive.

TheProvincialLady · 10/04/2023 11:36

You can’t change your mum. You can only change you, and your response to her.

Some things you could try are:

  • Counselling/therapy
  • Al-anon (12 steps programs for loved ones of alcoholics, which you are even if your mum no longer drinks)
  • Change your locks
  • Get a new phone and only look at your old one for ten minutes a day. Call your mum on that phone at a time that suits YOU. No more than once a day
  • Tell your mum how suffocated you are feeling and that you need a break - then stick to it
  • Go low or even no contact

Whatever you decide, remember that you are the important person here. If your mum genuinely feels guilty for the childhood she gave you, she will respect your needs and wishes. If she can’t or won’t do that, which I’m afraid I think very likely, you have to be the protective adult for yourself and create space and distance no matter how your mum feels. Or she will drag you down.

QueenSmartypants · 10/04/2023 11:37

LadyGardenersQuestionTime · 10/04/2023 11:26

Time for some clear boundaries I would say. Decide how much contact you can accept from her - one message or call or text a day? - tell her again that that's what's happening, and then stick to it religiously. After one (or whatever you choose) ignore her calls, don't reply to her texts.

Of course she will get defensive/keep trying/maybe get upset to start with but it will sink in eventually. You might want to set yourself up some kind of reward for yourself for sticking to it at your end to help you stick to the plan.

This is good advice. Reassure her it's not a rejection, that you love her.
It will be difficult to uphold the boundaries at first but keep at, they will stick.
Keep discussions about boundaries simple, so you don't get drawn into big talks or arguments.

WeeOrcadian · 10/04/2023 11:39

It sounds a little like your mum has an obsessive personality..... She swapped alcohol, for contact with you

I also find it appalling that she didn't actually deal with her alcoholism until her job was threatened, but that isn't the point of your post

As PP have said - decide how much contact you're comfortable with and explain clearly to her. Because clearly this amount of contact is detrimental to you, and understandably so.

You've been so strong to move on from historical events, you've got this, you're stronger than you realise

StrongTea22 · 10/09/2023 20:13

Ok, so my mum was also an alcoholic and she has not apologised really for the impact upon my childhood and not does understand the impact of her drinking at all in relation to other people. It’s wonderful that your mum has done this.

are you an only child? I ask because sometimes my mum does this a bit with me. Ringing and just sort of showing more interest in my life than she ever did when drinking which is an adjustment as sometimes I’m still very much ‘as if you care/know’ and I find it hard to deal with.

Just try to be firm and maybe make yourself more unavailable. I’m struggling with this at the moment to the point where my parents figured out where I was dropping my daughter off and stalked me outside a newspaper sho and couldn’t talk to my friend.

Its really hard and suffocating is bang on the money for how it feels.

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