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MIL making hurtful comments

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Froglet84 · 05/04/2023 01:59

Background: husbands parents live abroad (their choice) and have done for about 15 years. We have a 5 y/o and 17 month old. I work a well paid job which requires me to travel every so often but lately a little more than usual.I love my job and recently got promoted. Next year my department is growing, so I won’t need to travel as much.

My in laws make really unhelpful comments fairly often: after two traumatic births I was told to “not mention it as it might upset my husband or kids”. They often make comments about my weight. My FIL once put on my trousers and fitted himself in one leg hole and started walking around and laughing about it. MIL laughed along. Husband did nothing and said I was being unreasonable to be upset. He has since had words and FIL then says things like “oh we can’t talk about weight, can we?!”. FYI I am a size 14/16 and FIL is underweight.

As they live abroad, we often travel to see them. It’s a 15 hour journey door to door. My LO really suffered last time we went as they couldn’t handle the journey. It ended up being really traumatic and taking us 25 hours as we had to stop three times as much. I said we wouldn’t go to see them till he was older but they were welcome to come to us, or join us on holidays that required less travel.

MIL wasn’t able to come over to see us during lockdown etc so missed most of the early stages of my youngest growing up. She regularly says things like “I haven’t got the same bond” with my youngest etc in front of my kids. My youngest is too young to notice but I correct her and say that not on. She regularly says she’s looking forward to seeing /doing something with my eldest but forgets my youngest. She makes it clear with body language that she’s indifferent to my youngest.

Husband was very hands off dad with first: birth trauma which I “need to support him with”- I nearly died and my body was left in a state after. He is emotionally unsupportive. He is good with elsdest but tends on being lazy and not playing: helping, when ever he can. Me being away for work has required him to step up and be there and as a result the bond with our kids is far better. My eldest used to reject him and ask for me all the time, now husband is preference unless he’s upset. Before I started this job he was almost never there and I did a lot of parenting alone whilst also having full time work. I had to got back to work early as he lost his job, after first was born, much earlier than I would have liked (7 months)

We booked a holiday in UK. Husband and I have not got in well lately. He is a complete Mummies boy. He does not see how rude they are, most of the time. I am the main breadwinner. I have paid for most of the holiday, which was not cheap. We had a spare room so I asked if they wanted to come, so they could see they kids. They did but have not offered to pay for anything, other than their travel. They have offered £200 which barely covers meals out for the two of them. They are not short of money. They have four/ five holidays a year.

Husband has been ill prior to leaving which means most of the packing has been left to me. He managed to pack his own bag and load things in the car with my help. As a result I was totally exhausted after a busy work schedule for last month, being essentially the main doer in the house, as husband is lazy and obsessed with his own hobbies. I had put my back out from lifting things and youngest is teething so super clingy. So trying to juggle both, which was stressful.

MIL has made “poor husband comments” and bowed to every whim; cups of tea, making cake, massaging feet etc. I went to bed at 8pm yesterday as I was so exhausted and today my back has been agony but just dosed up and got on with it. Eldest keeps misbehaving and she keeps undermining me then walking away when he has a melt down and saying it’s because I pander to it. I really am not a pandering Mum. My husband has ASD and eldest shows signs of it too, so we have to have clear boundaries and routines.

she keeps making comments about how hard her son has to work whilst I’m away (he literally picks them up from after school club and puts them to bed- everything else is packed/ cooked or cleaned for him). She actually said to me, “so how are you finding your job?” I said I was loving it but couldn’t deny it was busy and things would get easier in a few months. She pouted and it seemed like a loaded question. “Will you be going away less?” ( I have been away every month for about 3 days). I said I could change my schedule to push my days away together rather than spread out. She said that would put too much pressure on husband. She then said “Well it needs to change sooner, it’s having an impact on husband, he’s ill you know”.

AIBU or is she being completely horrid and unreasonable with her and FIL nasty jibes and lack of empathy? I love my job and it’s something I’m actually good at. I feel like she’d rather I was a martyr and husband could live life doing hobbies and being lazy all the time!

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CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 05/04/2023 02:09

They sound like absolute dicks. In the Man favourite saying 'you have a DH problem'.

He should be supporting you when his knobhead parents get their cruel jibes in.

I certainly would not be facilitating holidays with them on my dime!

Stop paying for them. Ungrateful knobheads.

I would not tolerate the different treatment of the kids and I would tell DH he is the one that needs to tell them. He seriously needs to step up here.

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 05/04/2023 02:09

*MN not Man

missmorga · 05/04/2023 02:22

Ruined sons, grow up to be bad husbands. Mummy's boy, You are a powerful women, do not holiday with your in laws, do not be insulted or demeaned be straight up.
Tell your husband to go live with them.
See how long it lasts.
I'm married to a mummy's boy who always takes his side and molly coddles, when I had my daughter she always found fault with her, she's still in nappies all my kids were toilet trained at 12months,shes not speaking, she's deaf. Went to Dr the Dr basically said my mil was out of line and my daughter was perfect. Come at tea time to see what I was cooking for her sons dinner and so on.
I moved 12 thousand miles away, best thing I did. 😂

KettrickenSmiled · 05/04/2023 02:47

I feel like she’d rather I was a martyr and husband could live life doing hobbies and being lazy all the time!

I suspect your husband feels the same.

Short term, just ignore as much as possible, stop travelling to them, & if you have to see them either Grey Rock or start giving back some of their own rudeness. I'd be hard pressed not to tell MiL to mind her own business, & that my workload is far greater than her son's, but I still manage to parent & do everything else to run the home while H prefers his hobbies & being financially propped up ... depends if you are able to leave immediately after saying it though, if not, Grey Rock.

The trouser stunt? I'd have told FiL to stop messing with my things & to fuck off if he couldn't behave himself. Seriously. What so you have to lose here? You already do it all. H only steps up when you are travelling for work.

Longer term, when you divorce your mummy's boy, spend enough of your hard-earned on an excellent lawyer who will spot any tricks coming like "I am used to being supported by my wife's money" or "my wife travels for work, I want to be resident parent & have her pay me maintenance."

after two traumatic births I was told to “not mention it as it might upset my husband or kids”. They often make comments about my weight.
And your H lets it happen.
This family is a weight around your neck. It's the only weight you need to lose.

Sugargliderwombat · 05/04/2023 02:57

The MIL rubbed your husbands feet ? 🤮🤢 you must have the ick by now.

GG1986 · 05/04/2023 03:10

She massaged his feet????? Just no!!! That would be enough to make me divorce him!!

Ktime · 05/04/2023 03:42

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, both PIL and Dh sound pretty terrible. I can’t believe DH let you be fat shamed and called you unreasonable for minding.

Is DH SAHD now? It’s crazy that you’re doing the heavy lifting at home (both literally and figuratively) whilst working full time and being the breadwinner.

Please stop inviting PIL on your holidays and stop paying for them.

And consider if you’re happy to stay with waste of space DH.

Murdoch1949 · 05/04/2023 04:26

What horrible in-laws, and your husband is not far behind. I really can't see you staying with him long term, you're not in a relationship, you're shouldering the majority of the work, in & out of the home. You are far too accommodating to the in-laws, they take advantage and are ungrateful and hurtful in both words and deeds. You're a very strong woman, it's sad that you're currently stuck with a weak man & his family.

SchoolTripDrama · 05/04/2023 04:36

Op please kick your Easter DH out! You'll all be far, far happier. You kids will relax so much and so will you

Sugarfree23 · 05/04/2023 04:41

Pull them up on every single comment.

When she says DS is tired, yes having young children and a big job is tiring and stressful too. But the big job pays for luxuries including this holiday.

FragranceFree · 05/04/2023 05:13

Send him back to live with them, they all sound a nightmare.

readingismycardio · 05/04/2023 05:21

like “oh we can’t talk about weight, can we?!”.

No, you moron, you can't talk about anyone's weight. Also, you have a big DH problem. Start standing up for yourself.

Mangogirl12 · 05/04/2023 05:52

OP, wow, why are you still with your deadbeat husband? He's an arsehole! You're the main bread winner, he has more to lose and I would be sure to tell him that if he doesn't sort himself out and sort his parents out. To be frank though I would just separate and get a divorce. You've married a lazy waste of space who has the emotional IQ of a lamp post. You can manage on your own, you are strong, financially independent etc do you really want your DC growing up thinking your husband's behaviour is normal for a husband/father, and they will feel the disrespect for you by the grandparents in the air/hear it from them. Seriously you'd lose a lot of dead weight by getting rid of the arsehole and his equally arsehole parents. Get out now while the goings good.

Marmalady75 · 05/04/2023 07:07

In the nicest possible way, why do you get out of your relationship with your husband? If he disappeared tomorrow would your life be better or worse?

CountryParsonPetal · 05/04/2023 07:13

The trouser incident would have been the end of my relationship with them!

Makesense12 · 05/04/2023 08:03

@KettrickenSmiled @missmorga

Very good posts. Especially kettricken, are you a counsellor /therapist? I've noted a few times you really sum this stuff up well and get to the heart of the problems!

Op, this is awful and the trouser thing, how demeaning and awful.

If you can be bothered with a push back do it if only for your own self esteem.
I've had the poor dh comments also except mine does far more than yours but no more than normal functioning dh. He won't tolerated being mummified.

piedbeauty · 05/04/2023 08:08

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 05/04/2023 02:09

They sound like absolute dicks. In the Man favourite saying 'you have a DH problem'.

He should be supporting you when his knobhead parents get their cruel jibes in.

I certainly would not be facilitating holidays with them on my dime!

Stop paying for them. Ungrateful knobheads.

I would not tolerate the different treatment of the kids and I would tell DH he is the one that needs to tell them. He seriously needs to step up here.

All this. 👆🏽

And why on earth did you ask them to go on holiday with you? And I'd you did, why didn't you just tell them gore much it would cost?

It sounds like you have lost all respect for your lazy h and his dickhead parents. I'm not sure there is any coming back from that.

DashboardConfessional · 05/04/2023 08:12

Three of them against one of you (and they are) is unsustainable.

Just think. If you divorce him you'll basically never have to see them again. Result.

Antiquiteas · 05/04/2023 08:14

Play the nasty bitch at her own game. Ask her if she’s enjoying the holiday your breadwinning job paid for? Start with a few lightly-delivered home truths about what her precious son actually does.

It’ll cause an atmosphere, but no more than she already is. Just respond to her in kind, I’m a breezy way.

Your H is also a twat. Not sure what you do about that.

EyesOnThePies · 05/04/2023 08:23

Just calmly tell them.

”you keep saying this, and it’s making me laugh, I do XYZ, always do XYZ alongside my job, leave XYZ ready in advance, and all DH has to do is ABC and enjoy his hobbies! And you do realise that my job brings x% of the money into our family? Anyway, the way we run our household is the business of DH and I so let’s not continue this as a subject for comment”.

Then every single time they make any sort of comment say “we’ve had that conversation “ and immediately change the subject or walk away

thebaneofmylifeisacat · 05/04/2023 09:40

Op they all sound just bloody awful!!

You poor love you sound be better off without the inlaws in your life! They are hideous.

Personally I think your dh should go like with mummy

You deserve much better than this

JudgeJ · 05/04/2023 10:40

Play the nasty bitch at her own game. Ask her if she’s enjoying the holiday your breadwinning job paid for? Start with a few lightly-delivered home truths about what her precious son actually does.

But make sure you do it when other people, preferably her friends, are around! My late MIL used to refer to my 'little job' so I waited until a couple of the biggest gossips in the Universe were with us to point out that my job was considerably senior to my husband's and pays a lot more! No matter how many times we both told her she wouldn't accept it! When I'd got the promotion her first words were 'Were there no married men with children wanting it?'!

Botw1 · 05/04/2023 10:45

Why are you putting up with any of them?

Get rid of your oh and tell his parents to fuck off while you're at it.

Why on earth would you keep tolerating that behavior?

KettrickenSmiled · 05/04/2023 11:09

@Makesense12 thank you Blush

No, not a therapist, just old, with a huge interest in psychology & family dynamics. (And far too much experience of familial dysfunction, ACE, DA, coercive control & financial abuse 😂)

Froglet84 · 05/04/2023 13:08

DH used to board from the age of 8. So I fear they have some significant guilt complexes. Hence their comments and their golden child mentality towards him. dH no longer speaks to his brother and PIL also speak ill of brother as he “isn’t DH”. I honestly wonder whether they hear themselves. I think they have a martyr complex as they used to be foster parents and debit their life to church. However if something is out of their interest or they don’t want to do it, they won’t. E.g they fostered a child with medical needs and then gave them up as they found it too hard. I get that it might be hard but the way they went around “ditching” the child was awful. DH was traumatised by it.

Im so grateful for comments, as I’d spent ages thinking I was being unreasonable. We went on holiday as DH threatened to take kids abroad to see grandparents without me, and as we were going through a bad patch, I felt he may do that and not bring them back. So I suggested the holiday to placate him. I think writing it “out loud” has made me realise how manipulative the PIL are and how awful DH is being. They are all passively abusive or sometimes just outright abusive, wrapped up in a “aren’t I saintly” wrapping.

I think I may start taking some legal advice as relationship with DH has been purely platonic for about 20 months and I don’t even like him very much at the moment. We talked about divorce and he said the impact on the kids would be awful. I don’t think it would be. I’d have far more time to be Mum and not an unpaid maid if we did shared parenting.

I think I’d be happier on my own as well. But then sometimes I panic that I’d feel lonely.

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