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[melissa2929291936]

My work sent me abroad for six months.I arranged to rent our home out to a "friend".She only paid two months rent but I let it slide until we returned.When we did come home,she refused to leave the house.The police said there was nothing they could do so myself,husband and two small children had to camp out at my mothers thirty miles away.After six weeks of this,and having tried every legal avenue,I went to our home after "friend"had left for work.I still had my keys so I entered and turned the water off at the stopcock.The stopcock is in a weird place,not where you'd expect,so I was pretty sure she didn't know its location.I then cancelled the broadband for the address.That night she had the nerve to phone me complaining.She said she had an infant,a toddler and no water.I informed her she could go to her own mother (who lived in the same street.)but the rental time in our written contract had passed and she hadn't even paid me for most of it.Cue tears,threats etc but,because I knew she had somewhere to go,I held my ground.Went round next day and she'd gone,although the place was trashed.I had the locks changed,cleared up and moved back in.Now she's bad mouthing me all over,saying I threw out a mother with young children.Her main gripe though seems to be the lack of broadband rather than water! I genuinely don't think i was in the wrong "throwing her out"_I knew she wouldn't be on the street.

Scary is the lack of foresight or contract. Don’t be an informal landlord
This wasn’t just staying it was a badly executed financial arrangement creating a tenancy and LL and tenant
@melissa2929291936 entered into being a landlord without familiarising herself of her landlords responsibility

That's post of both staggering arrogance and stupidity.

The one I was responding to, that imagined her morals were universal and relevant? Yes, it was, glad to see you agree with me.

OP was in the wrong, so is anyone supporting her.

If only people on this thread had stayed to explain the landlord's legal obligations and why the Op should not have illegally evicted her tenant.

Assault as well as illegal eviction.

I see all the bawlers posting they’d give her a doing, not take any shite. Yes tell that to your solicitor
I hope @melissa2929291936 is not in a job requiring DBS or professional standards as if the tenant complains to registration body and/or police it could have adverse impact upon ability to practise. As @melissa2929291936 behaviour is illegal

No. Your post.

Oh well then you clearly didn't understand it.

lmao we found the person who was the class snitch who nobody liked

Thing is, I personally am discussing the emotions and morals of this - I know the law, and I also couldnt give a F when it comes to having an opinion on this. People break the law all the time every day, some people are aware, some arent so much. What the OP did was in desperation and I would have done the same, but actually i would have used much murkier tactics to scare the life out of the "friend" and I won't say tenant. thats just who I am, and I would face the consequences. The rage I would feel, the injustice of it all. Utterly disgusting.

The OP did what she did, the cheeky parasite of a friend did what she did. The moral of all this is not to trust friends apparently and how sad is that.

Can quote the law all you like if it makes you feel like you have some kind of amazing knowledge, well done, but the fact is this is not just about law, its about emotions and morals which is why everyone is commenting.

She had it coming. You did her a favour and she re-paid it by being a CF. Good for you. And no - I am not and have never been a landlord.

Really is, its like these robots keep parroting that the OP is in trouble with THE LAW now, like we fkgn get it! But this is more than about the law, it is about being totally abused by a friend. You would think that you could trust a mate but seems you can't and all these lot going "well shoudl have got a contract sorted" and all that, obv a lot of times, people just do things informally, and fair enough.

Its like when you lend money to people you just expect them to give it back to you, when you get married you dont all get prenups and all of these things can go badly wrong but man if we had to constantly contract ourselves up all the time, what a world.

The sad part about all of this is being betrayed by a mate.

@BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers

Now I'm a district judge so I frankly couldn't care less whether people who appear in court like me or not. They just need to do as they're told.

Ok,so let’s be clear.law is not like a buffet I’ll have a bit of this and none of that
the law on this is clear. Crystal. The op illegally evicted her tenant.
Now all the woulda, coulda,shoulda and whatever morality one chooses to cite is not going to cut it
This is why one shouldn’t become a casual LL and enter into financial arrangements with mates
Being friends prior to a dispute doesn’t exempt one from having to behave legally. Multiple former friends have entered into poor contracts with catastrophic results, architects in particular doing a job for mates. Eg Highgate garden that has been ongoing for years.

so no, you’re morals or sense of what is right in your circle just doesn’t cut it

as I also said,I hope the op isn’t in a job with a regulatory body eg Health that is expecting good moral standards. If op is in such and the tenant reported her to police. And/or regulatory body her registration is at risk

And can I just add, I am someone that rents and I hate those people like that "friend" because they are the ones that make people mistrust renters. I have always paid my rent on time, even through hard times, but if I couldnt pay I would seek advice and I would never think I could just sit in someones house rent free.
I know there are unscrupulous landlords but the ones I have dealt with in my life have been a mixture, but I would neve ever think I could take the piss like that,
I would fully expect to get terfed out of a place after non payment of rent for more than 3 months, its common sense.

Make that two i agree with @greenbackers it would be assault

I have no sympathy at all for the tenant but the comment about pulling her out by her hair was appalling.

@Cabella stop tap may be in the front path/driveway (familiar with Barratt homes house types)

Why are people on mumsnet so nasty for no reason?!

Care to elaborate? What in your opinion has been nasty?
FWIW I don’t think mn is nasty per se. Realistically, ask an opinion expect to get a response you may not like. The anonymity of SM means posters don’t have to dilute or sugarcoat the response. No one here is your boss,family,neighbour so you can actually say fully what you think. Marvellously liberating,esp as women we are so used to always having to mind social niceties etc

Forget about the law it’s a joke if it was me I’d of got a couple of heavies to pop round and have a quiet word I promise you I wouldn’t care if the kids were there or not she would of been out by the next morning and pls pls don’t quote me her rights I couldn’t give a stuff she is a rotten bitch doing that to you and unfortunately it’s the only way these ppl learn 😘

couple of heavies?Get you acting all ard. Real life You wear polyester and jump when doorbell rings
Stop channelling the gangster vibe, it is really is not plausible. Makes you look silly

If anyone is a rotten bitch it's yourself, wannabe gangsta moll.

Martina Cole has joined the discussion 😂

Steady on all that polyester and cheap talk it’s getting a bit Kat Slater. Havin a whisper.