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Am I being unreasonable in thinking that we are suffering from a collective Stockholm syndrome re the NHS

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Newbutoldfather · 31/03/2023 18:49

This is inspired by another thread about a mother with a child in pain being kept hours without painkillers without being triaged, and the responses on that thread. However I have also had an awful experience with my own child over the last year.

it seems amazing to me that in one of the richest countries in the world (we still are), people are content to accept substandard care which would embarrass a country with 10% of our GDP.

In France, MRI’s are standard for muscular injury or complex fractures. They happen within a few days and, often, on the day. ( my reference is Paris btw, not sure about rural France). In addition, you always get a same day GP appointment, regardless of seriousness, no hassle, no waiting for an hour at 8AM.

Finally, although there are some real heroes in the NHS, my own experience (and that of the other poster) are that many lack compassion, which is about culture, not money.

I don’t know the ‘solution’. Any solution is multifaceted and will take time. However, if we don’t admit the scale of the problem and continue to say how marvellous free-at-the-point-of-use is, we will never get acceptable medicine in this country for any but the rich.

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justasking111 · 03/04/2023 12:47

Shelefttheweb · 03/04/2023 11:45

I don’t think it is reasonable to compare post-pandemic NHS/global cost of living crisis to when labour was last in power. The situations are not comparable

It isn't in the early 70's I worked weekends and summer holidays from aged 14. I filled shelves, worked on deli counter and the till.

I would measure out ham and other cold meats on the scales working to a set price the customer asked for I was measuring a lot of spam, Haslet because it was cheaper. Cheese I was cutting much smaller pieces. Bacon, back, middle, collar, streaky. Could be cut really thin to eke it out.

Filling shelves customers would check the price I was putting on with the red gun. Even I as a teenager clocked the price rises every Saturday

At the till women would put stuff on the conveyor essentials first and be asked to sub total. This would happen three or four times. Sometimes customers would say can I put the rest back. No worries just stick the trolley back here. When they had gone I'd alert a shelf filler to return things

In the canteen I was the kid but heard of the struggles and Tesco paid us well, but many men were being laid off so the women were the breadwinners. Any tin dented was shared out by the manager. No labels ditto. On a Saturday late on anything that would be no good for Monday was sliced, diced, and handed out.

I've been here before and am sad to see it all again

Newbutoldfather · 03/04/2023 17:04

Just checking in.

I don’t think that people’s opinion is really in doubt.

Hundreds of votes and 4:1 in favour of the proposition. Now, the question is where do we go from here..

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Botw1 · 03/04/2023 17:07

I wasn't aware the vote was legally binding...

Nivgor · 03/04/2023 17:08

That's what they said about brexit

Botw1 · 03/04/2023 17:09

@Nivgor

I wish that wasn't funny

😭

Nivgor · 03/04/2023 17:13

I know ... sorry ... ☹️

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