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To think you should be able to see if you have a non crime hate incident recorded against you?

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Thelnebriati · 30/03/2023 14:40

Currently you have no right to know if you have a non hate crime incident recorded against you, even though it could be a completely bogus allegation and could affect a job application.

If you would like to make your views known, the college of policing have a consultation on non-crime hate incidents.
https://www.college.police.uk/article/recording-non-crime-hate-incidents-have-your-say

Recording non-crime hate incidents – have your say | College of Policing

Public consultation on updated guidance to help police manage and record non-crime hate incidents reported by the public.

https://www.college.police.uk/article/recording-non-crime-hate-incidents-have-your-say

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beastlyslumber · 30/03/2023 15:26

YANBU

I've completed the survey. It was easy to do.

funnelfan · 31/03/2023 09:05

If an “incident” isn’t a crime, how the heck are police getting involved? Police services regularly publish recordings of 999 calls to discourage the public from unnecessarily involving the police and clogging up emergency services phone lines. I don’t understand the disconnect. Secret files on citizens recording non-crimes is not a hallmark if a democratic society , surely!

Thelnebriati · 31/03/2023 13:00

Bump.

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Shoxfordian · 31/03/2023 13:08

Where does it say that? If you send in a SAR then you’ll receive a record of all personal data held

PronounssheRa · 31/03/2023 13:15

Shoxfordian · 31/03/2023 13:08

Where does it say that? If you send in a SAR then you’ll receive a record of all personal data held

The issue is the police dont inform a person that a NCHI has been recorded, so for most people making a SAR wouldn't even cross their mind.

Unless everyone starts making SARs on a regular basis just in case.

Naunet · 31/03/2023 13:28

It’s the police abusing their power, why the fuck do they think they have a right to police none crimes, when they can’t even be bothered to police most proper crimes? Easy work I guess, especially when the police also get to decide which groups being offended is a none crime crime, and which they can ignore - call a woman a cunt, no problem. Call a man a man and out come the rainbow wagons.

Aphrathestorm · 31/03/2023 13:31

funnelfan · 31/03/2023 09:05

If an “incident” isn’t a crime, how the heck are police getting involved? Police services regularly publish recordings of 999 calls to discourage the public from unnecessarily involving the police and clogging up emergency services phone lines. I don’t understand the disconnect. Secret files on citizens recording non-crimes is not a hallmark if a democratic society , surely!

A lot of 'domestic incidents' are non crimes.

Such as daft stuff like someone calling the police to tell them to tell their landlord they want them to get their ex boyfriends keys back.

Or a neighbour will report hearing shouting. The police attend but there's no evidence of anything untoward.

Or there are false counter claims of abuse made by abusers.

funnelfan · 31/03/2023 14:31

Aphrathestorm · 31/03/2023 13:31

A lot of 'domestic incidents' are non crimes.

Such as daft stuff like someone calling the police to tell them to tell their landlord they want them to get their ex boyfriends keys back.

Or a neighbour will report hearing shouting. The police attend but there's no evidence of anything untoward.

Or there are false counter claims of abuse made by abusers.

Your examples seem to me to be a mix of stuff that the police should never be involved in, and stuff they should such as welfare checks and allegations of abuse, whether the allegations turn out to be malicious or not.

Would any of them be recorded against you in the same way as a non crime hate incident?

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