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AIBU?

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To stop talking to my friend about dating?

10 replies

Enamel · 29/03/2023 12:04

My friend is a catch: fun, clever, good career, financially independent, conventionally attractive, lots of friends, sporty, outgoing. She’s 34 next month and she says she wants a relationship and a family.

Her last proper relationship ended about six years ago and since then she’s dated, amongst others, a man who lives with his wife and three kids, a drug dealer, multiple men into ethical non-monogamy including some who lived with their girlfriends, our mutual friend’s ex (a serial cheat who then cheated on her), a man who was unemployed and had been sofa-surfing for a year, a man who was open about not wanting a relationship from the first date… I’ve not met any of them as it’s never got to that stage but have heard all about them.

After each fling ends, she’s disappointed and sad. I know it’s hard in the dating world (I was single not so long ago and no relationship is perfect), casual dating can be fun, and I’m trying not to be judgemental, but I feel like if she wants to have children, she’s wasting her time on these losers. We have some eligible mutual friends who have been interested in the past and some of my single friends have wanted to take her on dates, but she always declines.

At this point it feels like she’s self-sabotaging but if I suggest she deserves better or that someone’s a bad prospect, she gets defensive. I’d love to see her happy with someone who is solvent and interested in sharing a future. AIBU to just change the subject if she discusses men from now on?

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Villagetoraiseachild · 29/03/2023 12:10

Op, some very smart women make some dumb choices.
As the Millionaire Matchmaker used to say, her 'picker' is off.
You've done your best. Her life, her choices etc.
It's ok to change the subject.

Enamel · 29/03/2023 12:19

Villagetoraiseachild · 29/03/2023 12:10

Op, some very smart women make some dumb choices.
As the Millionaire Matchmaker used to say, her 'picker' is off.
You've done your best. Her life, her choices etc.
It's ok to change the subject.

I think that first sentence sums it up! I want to be supportive but I just don’t know what to say anymore.

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Dacadactyl · 29/03/2023 12:21

Yeah id change the subject too. For some reason shes picking nightmares and wasters. If you think she would take it well maybe suggest some therapy to work out why she makes such bad choices, but if this wont go down well, change the subject.

Enamel · 29/03/2023 12:40

Dacadactyl · 29/03/2023 12:21

Yeah id change the subject too. For some reason shes picking nightmares and wasters. If you think she would take it well maybe suggest some therapy to work out why she makes such bad choices, but if this wont go down well, change the subject.

I actually think this would be a good idea, but I think she’d be offended if I suggested it.

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TootsAtOwls · 29/03/2023 15:57

Has she said why she doesn't want to meet any of the men you know?

Enamel · 29/03/2023 16:57

TootsAtOwls · 29/03/2023 15:57

Has she said why she doesn't want to meet any of the men you know?

Just doesn’t fancy them (perfectly nice looking men and she doesn’t have a specific type) or she’s too busy that week or she wants to find someone organically and would find it awkward to be set up. For mutual friends, that she doesn’t see them in a romantic way.

Each new fling starts off being exciting and fun, but they’re telling her they just want sex or are in an unstable place in life from the start.

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concernedalot · 29/03/2023 17:11

I think she'd probably notice if you started changing the subject and then become resentful of you. This will matter if you want to keep her as a friend. Yes she's making some unhealthy dating choices, but your only real option if it's annoying you that much is to try and see a bit less of her, but when you do see her try to just let it go over your head a bit. No easy solution to this one!

xPaz · 29/03/2023 17:21

Don't stop talking to her. She's only 34. She has time to get turned off by red flags.

I'm 52 and I made some bad choices because at my core I didn't believe that I had the right to object to what were obvious red flags. I'm single now, and that's absolutely fine but I'm nearly 20 years older than your friend who probably wants children.

Please recommend Anna Runkle the crappy childhood fairy to her. Anna is so kind but so CLEAR in her message. It never comes across as a lecture.

Instead of changing the subject, if I had a friend like this I'd ask questions like

how did that make you feel? Did you feel supported when he didn't help? Do you feel safe when he left you there on your own? Do you feel he sees who you really are? If he was a woman would you want him as a friend?

I know it's not your job to retrain her so that she gets turned off by being treated like a side chick but please indulge in a bit of tough love before changing the subject!!

I find friends who secretly believe their relationship is where it's at you're to be pitied cos you're single MUCH harder to listen to! So I do get that it can be hard to listen to somebody else's life sometimes.

Villagetoraiseachild · 29/03/2023 17:28

Yay to Crappy Childhood Fairy! She is excellent and accessible and available in small easily digestible doses.
I also agree to asking skillful, supportive questions when you can.

Villagetoraiseachild · 29/03/2023 17:29

Anna Runkle, aka Crappy Childhood Fairy is on YouTube.

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