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DH thinks rice crispies are a suitable breakfast

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thisismyheart · 28/03/2023 07:46

That's it really, DH would happily send children (3&6) off to school/childminder on one bowl of rice crispies and a bit of fruit in the morning. I feel very strongly about filling kids tummies properly before school, and while i have no problem with a bowl of rice crispies now and then, that they are ultimately just puffs of air, and the children need something more nutritionally dense.

We argued about it properly this morning, and now he's in a huff about me undermining him. I just want to guage what others think - is a bowl of rice crispies and a bit of fruit enough to keep a child's energy levels up all morning?

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RudsyFarmer · 28/03/2023 11:57

I don’t love it as a choice but I like it better than other alternatives. My children have toast with butter for one and weetabix with full fat milk and banana for the other. Are these ideal? Probably not. Are they choices that make up a variety of food across the day? Yes.

Hoggoblin · 28/03/2023 11:57

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Mumof3confused · 28/03/2023 11:58

magratvonlipwig · 28/03/2023 11:54

Its plenty, with milk. It has vitamins and stuff added in. Most of us 70s kids had that for years !
And not everyone functions well with full belly, my youngest preferred a small breakfast, stodgier food made him sluggish

There isn’t a lot of protein in a splash of milk, and unless it’s full fat there is not enough fat either for a growing child. The vitamins are added because almost all vitamins and minerals are removed as part of the processing of the cereal. The vitamins added are in their synthetic forms and not remotely comparable to the food-state vitamins found in real food.

Redebs · 28/03/2023 12:00

Vitamins are vitamins. Nothing magical about them in food. In fact some are less bioavailable in foods.

Comefromaway · 28/03/2023 12:01

Who has a "splash of milk" in cereal? My kids always had loads.

Antiquiteas · 28/03/2023 12:02

I hope all the Mega Mummies realise that while we’re killing our kids with Rice Krispies (apparently the same as handing them a fresh deck of twenty Marlboro Lights and a Zippo) they’re killing the planet with their addiction to avocados and overfishing. All so their little cherubs can have little tummies filled with monounsaturated fats and omega 3s…

Lovelyring · 28/03/2023 12:02

I agree with you that rice crispies are not a good breakfast. IMO they are ultra-processed crap.

I also find that if I eat just toast or cornflakes or similar for breakfast I get MUCH hungrier than if I eat homemade granola or porridge.

Phobe1985 · 28/03/2023 12:02

I agree OP. They taste like cardboard. The only cereals I will have that are remotely filling are Shreddies, Alpen and Bran Flakes. And with these 3 cereals, j absolutely mean the original incarnations of them none Jc the variations that have been introduced of late e.g. sugar free, chocolate flavoured or anything like that

UndertheCedartree · 28/03/2023 12:02

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 28/03/2023 11:21

True. But we as humans can't decide the day we serve avocado on toast. The avocado makes that decision.

Haha - the power of the avocado 🥑 I buy the cheap small ones and when ripe they go in the fridge.

Scottsy200 · 28/03/2023 12:02

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nutritionally dense, welcome to Mumsnet

Phobe1985 · 28/03/2023 12:03

None of the variations * sorry for typos

Phobe1985 · 28/03/2023 12:03

Scottsy200 · 28/03/2023 12:02

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nutritionally dense, welcome to Mumsnet

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VWHoliday · 28/03/2023 11:44

Rice crispies come up as one of the cereals with most iron.

They are ultra processed and the extra iron has been added to make up for it.

"That processed cereals had become little more than sugary junk with milk and vitamin pills added, was an accusation made as long ago as the 1970s. A US congressional hearing in 1970 was told by an adviser to President Nixon on nutrition, Robert Choate, that the majority of breakfast cereals 'fatten but do little to prevent malnutrition'. Choate was outraged at the aggressive targeting of children in breakfast cereal advertizing. He analysed sixty well-known cereal brands for nutritional quality and concluded that two thirds of them offered 'empty calories, a term thus far applied to alcohol and sugar'. Rats fed a diet of ground-up cereal boxes with sugar, milk and raisins were healthier than rats fed the cereals themselves, he testified to senators."

"Many of the health benefits claimed for breakfast cereals depended on fortification rather than micronutrients from the raw ingredients, most of which were either destroyed by the process or stripped away before it."

"Cornflakes are generally made by breaking corn kernels into smaller grits which are then steam cooked in batches of up to a tonne under pressure of about 20lbs per square inch. The nutritious germ with its essential fats is first removed because, as the Kellogg brothers discovered all that time ago, it goes rancid over time and gets in the way of long shelf life. Flavourings, vitamins to replace those lost in processing and sugar may be added at this stage. It then takes four hours and vast amounts of energy to drive the steam out of the cooked grits before they can be rolled by giant rollers into flakes.
Steamed wheat biscuits such as shredded wheats are made with whole wheat grains which are pressure cooked with water. They are then passed between rollers which squeeze them into strands and build them up into layers. These processes begin the breakdown of the raw starches in the cereals so even though they are whole grains they are absorbed more quickly in the body – and they typically have glycemic index scores of around 75, close to the GIs in the high 70s or low 80s of cornflakes, Bran Flakes, Special K and Rice Krispies, compared with 45/46 for minimally-processed grains such as porridge or mueslis without sugar. (Glucose has a GI of 100 and is what these indexes measure other foods against. They indicate how fast different foods are converted to glucose and absorbed into the bloodstream.)".

"It was when I saw details of the proposals from Ofcom on restricting marketing of junk foods to children that I understood why the lobbying had been so determined. What became clear was that breakfast cereals, although heavily marketed as healthy, would be the category to take the largest hit by a long way. About £70 million of TV ads a year from cereal manufacturers would be banned because they were promoting what the experts defined as unhealthy. The sector spent a total of £84 million on ads that year. In other words, the vast majority of its marketing effort would be wiped out. It had everything to lose. Because, as the House of Commons had been told, without marketing to manipulate our desires, we might not eat processed cereals at all."

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/nov/23/food-book-extract-felicity-lawrence

Drop that spoon! The truth about breakfast cereals: an extract from Felicity Lawrence's book

Britain is one of the world's largest consumers of puffed, flaked and sugared breakfast cereals. How did that happen when many were said to contain less nutrition than the boxes they come in? Felicity Lawrence investigates

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/nov/23/food-book-extract-felicity-lawrence

Phobe1985 · 28/03/2023 12:04

I'll add granola and porridge to my approved list

Grimbelina · 28/03/2023 12:05

I grew up on cereals for breakfast but mine have porridge with natural yogurt and/or eggs and toast/eggy bread. I don't think processed cereals are a great breakfast.

Mumof3confused · 28/03/2023 12:05

Redebs · 28/03/2023 12:00

Vitamins are vitamins. Nothing magical about them in food. In fact some are less bioavailable in foods.

Depending on your genetics you may not be able to process synthetic forms of vitamins, for example folate vs folic acid. 40-60% of us have genetic snips on our MTHFR genes which makes it difficult to utilise synthetic folic acid. This can have knock-on effects on many areas of health. Folic acid is added to foods because as a nation we are deficient in this vitamin which is predominantly found in dark green leafy vegetables. The other nutrients found with folate within dark green leafy veg (other B vitamins and magnesium) actually makes the folate many times more bio-available than if it was to be taken on it’s own. Supplements and fortified foods are not the best way to meet your nutrient requirements.

Phobe1985 · 28/03/2023 12:06

I'm really surprised no-one's come on yet outraged !! at people having to feed children cereal (!) in the morning when their own children are 'stuffed' from the night before having eaten modest portions of the chicken that's been made to last a week padded out by the 'massive salad' !

padsi1975 · 28/03/2023 12:07

No, I think it is inadequate. My kids sometimes have rice krispies at the weekend and they get hungry very quickly afterwards. They are just puffs of air. Reading up on them, they are not the worst but far from the best. Give them to your kids at weekend and see how long it takes before they are complaining of hunger. The wholewheat ones seem to score a bit better.

Phobe1985 · 28/03/2023 12:08

I'm the child of a doctor and lawyer yet I've always though 'granola' sounds hideously middle class!!

UndertheCedartree · 28/03/2023 12:09

Kanaloa · 28/03/2023 11:23

Yeah, I guess we’ll have to disagree. I don’t find Rice Krispies taste so overwhelmingly sweet that I’m blown away by it and have to mention it several times. I feel in relation to an average varied diet they are not ‘so sweet.’ You obviously do find them ‘so sweet’ in comparison to other breakfast cereals.

Are you taking the piss out of me? I mentioned that Rice Krispies taste so sweet in response to people saying they have no sugar in them. Not because I'm 'blown away' by it. Why do you think they put sugar in cereal if you actually can't taste it atall? I think you are probably the other end of the extreme in not being able to taste sugar in something with 8% in it. You in fact can not taste it to such an extreme that you are blown away by the lack of sweetness as to go on and on about it.

Phobe1985 · 28/03/2023 12:11

I totally agree with the OP on this and would add many, many, cereals to the Rice Crispies/insubstantial category including Cornflakes, Special K, Ricicles and Frosties

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 28/03/2023 12:11

Phobe1985 · 28/03/2023 12:08

I'm the child of a doctor and lawyer yet I've always though 'granola' sounds hideously middle class!!

I can only say granola with a Valley Girl type Californian accent. gra-NOLA?

ladyofshertonabbas · 28/03/2023 12:12

What fruit? Depends on the child, surely?

Bree82 · 28/03/2023 12:15

Comefromaway · 28/03/2023 12:01

Who has a "splash of milk" in cereal? My kids always had loads.

Trying to teach my step kids milk volume lol. They pour half the carton in and leave a bowl full of milk at the end. They don’t want to drink it either lol. If they drank it then fine. That was the best but for me as a kid. So sweet lol.

WeeOrcadian · 28/03/2023 12:17

Do you want to die on this hill? Pick your battles would be my suggestion - you're making this more than it is.