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Things that happened in the past that wouldn't happen now

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Fakeplastictrees55 · 27/03/2023 23:34

I did my A Levels in 2007-2009. I went on to study one of the subjects at uni, even though I was rather weak at it at A Level. I needed a high grade and it wasn't certain I was going to make it. I remember my teachers and I were at school one night until around 7pm, my 2 subject teachers were practically doing the coursework for me as the deadline was the next day and they knew I needed the grade.
Then one of the teachers dropped me off home in her car after finally finishing it. Unsurprisingly I got an A.

I studied a language and we had a native speaker language assistant, a lady in her 60s. She was a lovely lady, and at one point she invited me and the other students to her house to complete our coursework. We went during the weekend, it was all above board, she made us croissants and we completed the coursework at her house.

Just looking back now this sort of stuff would be safeguarding risks now and would probably never happen. Has anybody else got things like that they think of?

OP posts:
Nimbostratus100 · 28/03/2023 09:46

Kanaloa · 28/03/2023 09:35

And to say it happens whenever there is coursework is simply incorrect. Most schools are not having students simply copy out sentences to make an essay. This is not common practice.

it happens whenever there is coursework, is what I said, and is what I mean.

Kanaloa · 28/03/2023 09:48

Nimbostratus100 · 28/03/2023 09:45

no, I am talking about teachers doing the coursework. This was the coursework. This is teachers dictating to 35 children at once, while making sure they all had a different assortment of sentences.

Perhaps this happened at one school, but it is certainly not common practice. It is not normal for teachers to complete coursework for students in most schools in the UK.

Kanaloa · 28/03/2023 09:49

Nimbostratus100 · 28/03/2023 09:46

it happens whenever there is coursework, is what I said, and is what I mean.

Then you’re unfortunately wrong. It is simply untrue. You still haven’t managed to answer the question of why there are fail grades if this happens whenever there is coursework? How are students at any school failing when some are passing if teachers are completing all the work?

Nimbostratus100 · 28/03/2023 09:49

Kanaloa · 28/03/2023 09:48

Perhaps this happened at one school, but it is certainly not common practice. It is not normal for teachers to complete coursework for students in most schools in the UK.

sorry, but it is common

PuttingDownRoots · 28/03/2023 09:59

Being served wine on a school trip. With permission slips from our parents. From age 14.

Only 16+ were allowed out to the local bars though! 😂

Ilovetocrochet · 28/03/2023 10:01

RobertaFirmino · 28/03/2023 00:00

Doing PE (or that Schools Radio programme Musical Movement) in your vest and pants, in the early 80s!

In the 1970’s, I used to have tennis lessons in the local park as my school did not have a tennis court ( inner city school). We had to walk about half a mile to the park along a fairly busy road wearing aertex shirts and our baggy brown knickers! It was also quite common for men to watch us playing tennis in the park!

Kanaloa · 28/03/2023 10:05

Nimbostratus100 · 28/03/2023 09:49

sorry, but it is common

No, it is not. I have worked in several schools, often supporting with coursework or teaching for coursework. This is not common practice.

BorisisaLune · 28/03/2023 10:09

Probably not a lot, grooming still goes on, just on line now and men still hoot their horns whilst starring at girls in uniform, time doesn't change men.

My kids have been to 4 different state comp's, never ever has a teacher tried or offered to do course work, the fallout if found to be doing so would be huge!!!

I'd imagine this is something that happens in the private sector, away from prying eyes, while actually i don't have to imagine because my niece went to a private boarding school in Somerset and the house parents, even teachers would help out the struggling ones in their dormitories.

TiddlySquats · 28/03/2023 10:10

FangsForTheMemory · 28/03/2023 07:21

A ‘medical’ at primary school where they pulled the front of your knickers and let them go with a ping. This was common practice in the 60s. I’ve no idea why.

This happened to me at girls grammar school in the early 70's.
I was 13 and we had to line up outside the room just wearing knickers. So humiliating as we were all self conscious about our changing bodies even when fully dressed.
We had to go in one at a time, dr listened to chest, pulled front of knickers out had a look. Perhaps was checking for pubic hair growth but no idea why they would need to do that.

LakieLady · 28/03/2023 10:11

sitdownstandup6 · 28/03/2023 00:31

We had a smoking area at our a level college. You could smoke at 16 back then in the early 2000s. Makes me feel old!

My grammar school had an unofficial smoking area, it was behind the hockey pavilion. Everyone, including the teachers, knew that we smoked up there, and nothing was ever said, even when we were smoking joints.

For a school that was anal about uniform, and forced us to wear stupid sodding hats until year 10, I still can't get my head round the fact that they turned a blind eye to it.

I think a lot of the teachers smoked. If you ever had to knock on the the staff room door for any reason, a cloud of of smoke engulfed you as soon as it was opened.

Things were very different in 60s/early 70s. I'd completely forgotten that the legal age for smoking is 18 now.

Cadburysucks · 28/03/2023 10:11

Male teacher openly flirting with a year 4(14 year old) girl in the classroom.
open racism among kids, I once saw a boys turban being ripped off. Name calling racist jibes to an Asian teacher and many more.
Boys being given the cane, I saw a few kids with bruises, black eyes not being given any care or attention. Fighting and the prefects had to break it up.

GneissWork · 28/03/2023 10:21

ScottishLavender · 28/03/2023 09:18

NOW we do. @bellsbuss said it was back in the '80s, when the teacher was dating a girl in the 5th year, it was called the fifth year.

@Fakeplastictrees55 Didn't teach you much in the way of reading comprehension, did they at your school?

Or they could be in Scotland, where it is still called 5th year (though I’m guessing you know that based on your username 😂)

ChocSaltyBalls · 28/03/2023 10:23

bellsbuss · 27/03/2023 23:51

A teacher at my secondary was dating a girl in the 5th year , this was late 80s.

Same at my school

GneissWork · 28/03/2023 10:23

Nimbostratus100 · 28/03/2023 09:49

sorry, but it is common

You must work in a very strange school. Between this and the fact that you spent significant amounts of time as an adult in the girls toilets.

LakieLady · 28/03/2023 10:26

Phos · 28/03/2023 09:23

Oh another one further back that I don't think would be tolerated now based on what I've seen/heard of primary schools (please do correct me if I'm wrong) In year 5 we were grouped by ability, nothing wrong with that. Can't remember what the groups were called, it was animal names so lets say Foxes, Badgers, Rabbits and Squirrels. Once a term we'd have an extended spelling test and the English teacher would get to a certain point where the difficulty was going to increase and say "Squirrels you can stop here", so at the end it was just Foxes who were still going. I get differentiation but I don't think it would be done so openly now.

My primary was ability streamed from year 3: A-stream, B-stream and 2 small classes of C-stream, which were mixed age.

We had weekly tests in spelling and mental arithmetic, and an exam in maths and English every term. Where you sat in class was determined in where you cam in the exams at the end of the previous term: top marks in the back row, nearest the window, lowest in the front row nearest the door.

It was horrific. Each row had 7 desks, six of the back row kids were the same every single term, and the top 4 were the same 4 girls, only the order varied. And all the other girls hated them, and wouldn't play with them.

It was in the 11+ days, and the A stream kids were given intensive coaching in how to pass the exam. It breaks my heart to think that kids were virtually written off at 7.

ChocSaltyBalls · 28/03/2023 10:27

Giving children the belt

ignoring children who plainly had developmental issues - probably autistic - meaning they left school with fuck all

the less academic children being in the “remedial class” with the “remedial teacher”

sexism

racism

homophobia

our head of PE standing around the corridors in the gym block in a pair of budgie smugglers

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 28/03/2023 10:28

Maybe I’m being naive to think they just wouldn’t dare do this now, but at the beginning of my very first uni tutorial with a young lecturer (mid 20s, mid Atlantic accent, evidently thrilled with himself) he said, ‘Your essay was fine - I’ve given you a B - now, how’s your sex life?’
(This was in the late 60s).

Also in the 60s, my mother, when ringing the tax office about a rebate, being told that this wasn’t her money, it was her husband’s. Unsurprisingly she was incandescent!

Me, after applying for a particular job, getting a reply to say they were very sorry not to have made it clear that the (Home Office) job wasn’t open to women because it would involve short notice travel and you might need to drive a car!

Dinoboymama · 28/03/2023 10:29

Our administration teacher in 2000s basically made us copy his work for the class the pass. He went and bought everyone a McDonald's when he brought us in to finish it on a Saturday morning before the deadline to submit passed.

That was my best grade.

The janitor did half my classes woodwork projects himself we all again got great grades.

At 13 the "cutest" teacher to us then gave me a kiss on the cheek after singing happy birthday to the birthday people at the school dance.

Some teachers used to hide on the field with students smoking. If the head caught you you'd get detention.
Detention was writing out the school rules over and over for 30 minutes with a year head watching you. I'm not sure schools do punishment exercises anymore.

SirVixofVixHall · 28/03/2023 10:32

Kanaloa · 28/03/2023 00:05

Thought of another one which I’m not sure if it’s a Scottish thing? A lady used to come and check our hair to see if we had nits! If you had them you would be given the slip of shame to give your parents. I’ve never known any of my kids be checked at school, and we’ve only ever had generic ‘we have had some cases of lice so please check your child’ type of letters.

I think all schools used to have a nit nurse.

CatsGinAndTwiglets · 28/03/2023 10:45

TrickorTreacle · 28/03/2023 02:32

I'm staggered regarding the responses on year 11 vs 5th year.

Surely some of you have read the Harry Potter books? They were written around 1997 to 2007 give or take a year.

1st to 3rd years are the 1st to 3rd years of secondary school.

4th and 5th years study their GCSEs. (In HP it's called the OWLs)

In the 6th year, which is conviently called sixth form (!) they study A levels (In HP it's called the NEWTs).

The 1st years (year 11 or 12 year olds) being referred to as year 7 in the 1990s is an Americanism that made its way over here. The same goes with "proms" (instead of balls) and "baby showers" (which was never previously a thing).

The change in the names of the school years in England was a national curriculum thing. I went from being a ‘first year’ to a ‘year 8’ the next school year. Was early 90s. Secondary schools (and some private schools now) use to be first year (year 7, age 11-12) up to fifth year (gcse, age 15-16) then sixth form was “lower sixth and upper sixth” (years 12 and 13, age 16-18).

shrunkenhead · 28/03/2023 10:58

Teacher had an affair with a girl in Yr5 (now known as Yr 11). Nothing really happened to him - he just left and changed jobs.
Older men eg in their 20s dating teenagers.
Teachers gave us lifts in their cars.
Language students (who weren't much older than us) would invite us round to their house.
Creepy teachers got away with stuff.
You weren't allows to wear shorts/ leggings/trackies under your v short netball skirts. No such thing as a "skort" in the mid nineties.
Teachers involved themselves a lot more with pupils and they weren't scared like they are now. This seems sad to me. I'm still friends with some of my teachers now!

EsmeSusanOgg · 28/03/2023 11:00

GneissWork · 27/03/2023 23:36

Those things should absolutely not have been happening in the mid to late 2000s either. Jeez.

Dear god yes. I thought the OP was going to say 1987...

Littlecamellia · 28/03/2023 11:07

Walking to school with a friend, and walking back home again, no adult present.

P.E in vest and pants in the hall.

No talking in lessons.

Lining up for the nit nurse.

Being weighed at school.

Lining up for the teacher to call out in a loud voice who had passed the 11+ and who had failed.

All this was late nineteen fifties and early sixties.

ladyofshertonabbas · 28/03/2023 11:10

Yanbu. We had a sleepover at our dinner lady’s house in the 80s. We just nagged her, and she said yes. Best night ever!

Yants · 28/03/2023 11:37

Is it still the case that for team games someone (usually the 2 best players) get to pick sides?
Obviously resulting in the least sporty, least confident kids getting left until last every time.
I've always thought this is a horrible humiliating and degrading practice tantamount to bullying, endorsed by the PE teachers.