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Concerned about massive over-offer on house

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BeingATwatItsABingThing · 25/03/2023 14:18

My friend has had her house on the market for a while. It’s quite a niche house so it wasn’t selling quickly and finding the right buyer was going to take a while. They reduced the price twice in hopes to sell.

They had some viewings the other day and got an offer from someone who said he buys houses on a buy to let to rent to vulnerable families. He has offered £25,000 over the asking price. No bidding war or other offers.

Initially, I was chuffed for them but I’ve been thinking and something isn’t sitting right. Why would he offer so much over the asking price? Especially if he is hoping to rent it out for vulnerable families. I haven’t spoken to my friend about this yet because I can’t decide if I’m overreacting.

AIBU to be worried about this? Is this a scam?

(I know it’s not my house and none of my business but I wouldn’t want them to be caught up in a scam.)

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BeingATwatItsABingThing · 25/03/2023 16:19

Wolvesandcacti · 25/03/2023 15:57

If it is money laundering and the man is a stranger she cannot be implicated. Plus the sale is via an agent etc. The solicitor will do money laundering checks.

When renting to vulnerable families the rooms often have to be specific sizes. Many houses just don’t meet the criteria. This may be why he has offered more. If it is for vulnerable adults in independent living the rent is lucrative and the rooms have to meet certain size criteria. He may need certain consents and it may be easy to obtain in that area. He may have offered over asking price so if/when the neighbours put pressure on her to not sell to a landlord renting to vulnerable people she is not swayed.

I would doubt that the rooms meet the size requirements if I’m being honest.

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TaunterOfWomenInGeneralSaysSayonarastu · 25/03/2023 16:22

VivX · 25/03/2023 16:18

My first thought was money laundering. Cash buyer paying over the odds (and you're not in Scotland where "offers over" is common to secure the property).
I'm cynical at times, though.

👀

Can you explain how money-launderers get past mortage provider, banking system, & 3rd party lawyer scrutiny to achieve their nefarious ends?

Soontobemumof2x · 25/03/2023 16:23

This happened to someone I know! They were massively over offering by a ridiculous eye watering amount. He pulled out as he “no longer had the finances” was a weird situation.

cittigirl · 25/03/2023 17:00

Is it at all possible he saw or was given the details at the previous price?? Is it a very recebt reduction? Doubtful I know but.....

VivX · 25/03/2023 17:03

Well, usually they would have a seemingly plausible enough reason (and trail) for having that amount of cash (well, liquid funds - it's unlikely to be physical cash, of course). Banks, solicitors, estate agents etc.. only make a report if they are suspicious. Purchasing property is usually the last stage in the laundering process - the dirty cash usually goes through placement and layering (in order for it to look clean) before getting as far a property purchase.

And of course, the buyer might also turn out to be rubbish at actual money laundering, in which case they would get caught (by a bank, solicitor, estate agent..) at some point before the transaction goes through.
I know someone who was caught at money laundering precisely because they were actually terrible at it.

MsMarple · 25/03/2023 17:13

Is there development potential for the house/land? Maybe the ‘vulnerable families’ thing is just a line? My local church hall was sold to someone who said they would be running it as a nursery church/PCC happy as it would benefit local families - 2 years later the council had mysteriously allowed a previously impossible change of use, and the site is a row of terrace town houses worth a couple of million.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 25/03/2023 17:18

cittigirl · 25/03/2023 17:00

Is it at all possible he saw or was given the details at the previous price?? Is it a very recebt reduction? Doubtful I know but.....

Unlikely as it was reduced a while ago.

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BeingATwatItsABingThing · 25/03/2023 17:19

MsMarple · 25/03/2023 17:13

Is there development potential for the house/land? Maybe the ‘vulnerable families’ thing is just a line? My local church hall was sold to someone who said they would be running it as a nursery church/PCC happy as it would benefit local families - 2 years later the council had mysteriously allowed a previously impossible change of use, and the site is a row of terrace town houses worth a couple of million.

I mean, I guess so. Not sure about getting the planning permission though because of neighbours.

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SheWentWest · 25/03/2023 17:24

I think it would be flagged as potential money laundering if he was paying that much over the asking price.

Thesharkradar · 25/03/2023 17:36

some sort of bait & switch con?

Lovelyring · 25/03/2023 18:14

We offered way over asking price once because we knew we were in a weak position as we were selling two houses to buy and one wasn't on the market yet.

They still didn't sell it to us but we were legit.

mumda · 25/03/2023 19:38

Does he work for serco?

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 25/03/2023 20:22

mumda · 25/03/2023 19:38

Does he work for serco?

No idea I’m afraid

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Murdoch1949 · 26/03/2023 09:42

Sounds very dodgy. His intention may well be, as others have said, to gazunder on Exchange Day. If he knows your friend is buying somewhere else, committing to that purchase, he could offer less, knowing they would need to either get a bridging loan or accept his low offer. If he is a philanthropist, unlikely, he would save the money to do good works elsewhere. It's a scam.

CallmePaul · 10/11/2023 22:31

Paid/offered over asking 3 yrs ago when it was mental market & houses were selling in a couple of days, wasn't 25k over but over.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 15/02/2026 12:30

Another thread reminded me I’d started this so thought I would update in case anyone is ever in a similar boat.

Just before exchange, the buyer “suddenly realised” he couldn’t afford the extra £25k. The options for my friends were to:
a- pull out of the sale
b- accept £25k less and hope their mortgage provider would cover it for their new house
c- hope that everyone in the chain would accept £25k less.

Option C was luckily accepted by the whole chain.

I still don’t know what the buyer had to gain from this as he could have just offered the asking price or even lower at the time.

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Swiftie1878 · 15/02/2026 12:40

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 25/03/2023 14:51

It seems I’m not being over dramatic with my concerns then. 😔

Posted before seeing update!
Sorry. 😁

LadyMargaretDevereux · 15/02/2026 12:53

Thanks for the update, op! What a strange thing that is and how lucky in the end it turned out okay as it wouldn't for many chains. Usually someone just has to swallow the change in price which isn't always possible. That happened to our buyers almost on exchange day but they were just able to come up with some more money to buy our house and it was thankfully not mentioned to us until it was sorted. Some people are so strange and buying a house brings out the worst in them, that's all I can think. It's their one chance to feel like a big wheeler dealer and for some reason they love it.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 15/02/2026 13:49

LadyMargaretDevereux · 15/02/2026 12:53

Thanks for the update, op! What a strange thing that is and how lucky in the end it turned out okay as it wouldn't for many chains. Usually someone just has to swallow the change in price which isn't always possible. That happened to our buyers almost on exchange day but they were just able to come up with some more money to buy our house and it was thankfully not mentioned to us until it was sorted. Some people are so strange and buying a house brings out the worst in them, that's all I can think. It's their one chance to feel like a big wheeler dealer and for some reason they love it.

I guess the people who miss out are the ones at the end of the chain who are £25k down!

Worked out well for my friends in the end and they’re happily living there now.

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