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WIBU to lie to school? WWYD.

49 replies

anerki101 · 16/03/2023 18:51

It's a term time holiday one.

One DC in reception. Will be missing four days of school in June for a holiday.

Would you lie and call DC in sick? Or just tell them the truth? I really don't want a fine. Am I likely to get one for a four day absence due to a holiday?

Also aware if we lie, DC is likely to go back to school and talk about the holiday anyway.

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MissingMoominMamma · 16/03/2023 19:10

I’ve taken my child out of both primary and High School for short periods. I just emailed and asked for permission. He does have a disabled sibling though, so I used time when she was at school to take him for 1-1 time. It was never refused.

SheliaBeCalmNow · 16/03/2023 19:11

People do lie, but then the child comes back with a slight tan and proceeds to tell everyone about the lovely holiday they had, the room they stayed in, what activities they did and some new words they learned whilst out there. Sometimes the hair style also gives it away when they come in with their hair in lots of braids.

No one wants the bloody fine. It won't matter this time due to your child's age but in future I would find out what your local council's standpoint is. For mine it is 4 1/5 days before they fine you, so 4 1/2 days are okay but hit 5 days or 10 sessions and you are fined. Cost me in fines but saved me £3.5k in cost of holiday.

GoodChat · 16/03/2023 19:13

If DC isn't going to be 5 anyway there's no legal obligation for them to be at school. It's fine but just be honest with the school. Lying makes no sense. It doesn't benefit anyone.

TeenLifeMum · 16/03/2023 19:15

It literally doesn’t matter if your dc has “unauthorised absence” in their records in primary.

under 5 days our schools in our county don’t prosecute but they get grumpy if your dc has high sickness and then you take them out for a holiday.

anerki101 · 16/03/2023 19:17

TaylorsSwimShorts · 16/03/2023 19:10

Don't bother lying, my kids always come back with a tan and full of their holiday 🤣🙈 just TELL the teacher you're going on holiday, you don't need to lie or ask for permission, have a fantastic time!

Thank you! I'm very excited! It's DC's first time abroad and first time on a plane. I also haven't been abroad for seven years so June can't come quick enough!!

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anerki101 · 16/03/2023 19:19

TeenLifeMum · 16/03/2023 19:15

It literally doesn’t matter if your dc has “unauthorised absence” in their records in primary.

under 5 days our schools in our county don’t prosecute but they get grumpy if your dc has high sickness and then you take them out for a holiday.

DC's attendance isn't fabulous but that's because it's reception so he's catching every bug going including a week off recently with chicken pox!

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NewNovember · 16/03/2023 19:21

Your child isn't CSA you can take them out of school whenever you want. Schools may try and tell you differently but legally you can randomly keep them off for a few days , a week, every Tuesday etc it's entirely your choice.

CaptainMyCaptain · 16/03/2023 19:23

Don't lie. The teachers will all know, believe me. It sound like your child is too young for it to matter anyway.

CaptainMyCaptain · 16/03/2023 19:25

NewNovember · 16/03/2023 19:21

Your child isn't CSA you can take them out of school whenever you want. Schools may try and tell you differently but legally you can randomly keep them off for a few days , a week, every Tuesday etc it's entirely your choice.

You can but the school can give your place away if they are oversubscribed. Non-statutory works both ways.

pilates · 16/03/2023 19:27

Don’t lie and pay the fine.

TeenLifeMum · 16/03/2023 19:34

In reception I wouldn’t worry. We took dd1 our 4 days in reception to go to Canada (to see family) tagged on at Easter and then dd1 was in Year 4 and dtds in Year 1 when we did the same to go to USA to visit other family. Both times head teacher happily agreed but couldn’t authorise. Second time I felt particularly guilty as I was a governor. We went to New York, Wisconsin Dells, Great Lakes and Chicago - plus caught up with my cousins and their dc who my dc now have a great relationship with. Totally worth it.

Yoshithegreen · 16/03/2023 19:35

Don’t lie, tell the truth. They can’t fine you he’s to young and even if it was the term after he turned 5 it has to be 10 absences (1 morning and 1 afternoon = 5 days) where we are. It’s worth checking your local rules.

ChestnutGrove · 16/03/2023 19:36

We did lie for a day after a center parcs weekend when dd was about 4 or 5. It was silly as it was before the days of fines so it probably would have been approved. I wasn't going to tell dd not to mention it so of course she came home and told me all the staff she'd told about her holiday 😀

CottonSock · 16/03/2023 19:43

He's 4, don't lie.
My kids school always wish us a nice holiday and no fine.

radiogoogooo · 16/03/2023 19:44

I work in school admin. They'll definitely find out and then that'll be on your child's notes.

You'd be surprised how often children have tonsillitis for a week then return with a tan and a Disneyworld pen.

At my school you wouldn't be fined until it's 10 sessions which is 5 days.

Don't lie. Nobody will bat an eyelid I promise you.

justasoul · 16/03/2023 19:48

I voted YABU, but I mean to lie rather than to go on holiday. Just tell them.

Fun story: took DD on a long weekend many years ago and instead of telling school, I said she was sick. While on holiday, she was bitten by a horse, we ended up in A&E and obviously she went back and told everybody she went camping and was bitten by a horse 😅I never lied to them again!

Have a nice holiday, OP!

FirstnameSuesecondnamePerb · 16/03/2023 20:01

Look up the rules for your local authority. Many don't fine if 5 days or less.
Tbh if that rule isn't in place, I might well just call them in sick.

ShapesAndNumbers · 16/03/2023 20:06

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AxolotlEars · 16/03/2023 20:06

I would just send an email at the end of the last day they are at school saying 'Billy will not be at school until 'insert day''

ididntwanttodoit · 16/03/2023 20:11

Don't lie, your poor children will have to keep it up

Hbh17 · 16/03/2023 20:14

Well, children should never be taken out of school in term time, for a start. Education is a privilege and should be prioritised.
But if you insist on doing this, just be honest and pay the fine.

whynotwhatknot · 16/03/2023 20:17

just tell the truth not worth the angst-they usually dont fine until its mor than 5 days but i think it varies

my cousin has just been told fine is now 100 per day in his area-still prob cheaper than a holiday out of term time

MrsR87 · 16/03/2023 20:50

Teacher here and I do not judge parents for taking their children out of school…I would do it myself if I could.

Two things to consider here though:

  1. your son will absolutely inadvertently grass you up by talking about the amazing time he had.
  2. if you’re going abroad (couldn’t see in your first post), if the school call you the ring tone will give you away…it’s happened loads in our school!
KarmaStar · 16/03/2023 21:32

When! You get found out you will have lost respect and be seen as a liar,you won't be the only one doing this at all,but do you want to be viewed as dishonest by the school?

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