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NLW is now what they call minimum wage?

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Pouffeycat · 16/03/2023 10:16

National Living Wage is the new term for the Minimum Wage
They have changed the language to make it seem like we are being given a living wage.
But the Real Living Wage is far higher.
Have I been asleep for a few years? Or just caught out by the subtle change?

Totally prepared to being flamed.
I should have taken more notice.
And it affects me!!

OP posts:
Danikm151 · 16/03/2023 10:33

They’ve been saying this fora few years.
The real living wage foundation recommendation is higher than the national living wage.

Augend23 · 16/03/2023 10:34

I think it came in in 2016 to try and pretend people were paying the living wage when they weren't.

Foreversearch · 16/03/2023 11:12

@Pouffeycat gov.uk publish NMW and NLW rates and have done for a long time www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates

Pouffeycat · 16/03/2023 12:54

Foreversearch · 16/03/2023 11:12

@Pouffeycat gov.uk publish NMW and NLW rates and have done for a long time www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates

Your link proves my point!
There is no such thing as the NMW anymore!

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Foreversearch · 16/03/2023 13:12

@Pouffeycat there is still a NMW, which is paid to people under 23, so the term still exists.

NLW for people over 25, now 23, replaced NMW 7 years ago in 2016, so it’s not a “new term”.

Brianisanaughtyboy · 02/10/2023 06:14

Don't be too hard on yourself, that's exactly what the government wanted, to make everyone think they are actually enforcing a living wage when they aren't. I think there should be something similar to copyright that applies to the government, that if they brand something with a confusing term that they should have to change it. Soon they'll be calling jobs 'national hobbies' and declaring they've allowed us all to stop work 😂

nutellacrepe · 02/10/2023 06:27

I had exactly the same thought, OP.

I thought the Living Wage was set higher than National Minimum Wage, for employers who wanted to actually pay people enough to live on (which minimum wage usually isn't!)

I am living a few years behind though apparently.

Sneaky move from the govt.

Lougle · 02/10/2023 07:00

The minimum wage is set at varying rates for apprentices, under 18 year olds, 18-20 year olds, and 21-22 year olds.

The National Living Wage is set for 23 and over.

It's just the minimum wage under a different name.

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