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To think this isn’t actually the BBC’s fight?

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notonbodycomparisonsites · 12/03/2023 09:16

Hear me out… I’m not very politically minded. This is my view as a lay person with unlimited access to the news and the internet…

But my personal opinion is that the BBC shouldn’t be held to task like this, not at this time.

They definitely need to assess their policies on who is allowed to say what and when. But the fact is that a public figure disagreed with the government, and the government didn’t want their actions criticised publicly, so they pulled out the ‘we own the BBC card’ and used BBC policy to attempt to shut the matter up. As far as I’m concerned that seems like a misuse of power, and as much as the BBC need to sort themselves out, I’d rather acknowledge that I’m uncomfortable we even got here to begin with!

For what it’s worth, I don’t actually agree with Gary Lineker’s opinion on the immigration matter and the 1930’s Germany blah blah blah… but I’m still glad I live in a society where I got to hear him say it Confused.

So… AIBU for thinking that we should soon be hearing from the government with a little apology for causing such a major fucking mess?

(Please don’t ask me anything about politics)

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notonbodycomparisonsites · 14/03/2023 12:58

@Notonthestairs hmmm. I’m not convinced. Not by you of course, I believe they want people to feel it’s represented within that, I’m just sceptical myself. The amount of money each advert on Dave makes alone, I can’t see that being significantly less than a yearly £145 payment from a proportion of the UK.

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Blossomtoes · 14/03/2023 12:59

pointythings · 14/03/2023 11:59

@Wontbringlulu there isn't a party that is exclusively for the working class. This is a good thing. We need to get rid of the toxic remnants of the class system. Then we need to bring in PR so that we can have some proper left wing parties in parliament (as well as more right wing ones, obvs).

Insisting on dogmatic purity on the left (or centre right, if you're talking about Labour) is the surest way to maintain a century of Tories in power.

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SoTedious · 14/03/2023 13:05

Well Dave is owned by BBC Studios, which is not the same as the BBC, it's a production company that makes content for all sorts of commercial and non-commercial broadcasters. So you can see ads in BBC Studios content on lots of platforms depending on who commissioned it. Ofcom rules mean that BBC Studios is kept quite separate from the BBC so as not to disadvantage other suppliers. There are no shareholders making money from this - its profits are paid as a dividend to the BBC and are reinvested.

The BBC has always sold content to other distributors - I'm not sure whether you are arguing that it should give its content to Netflix for free, instead of maximising your money by selling it, or that it shouldn't make it available to Netflix customers at all.

These days rights and revenue from secondary sales very often rest in the production companies after an 18 month window but nevertheless the big corporations buying thjs stuff subsidise tv in the UK. When the BBC floated the idea of restricting the sale of content, there were complaints that it would be detrimental to licence fee payers who would lose out on content subsidised by Netflix, Amazon and Disney. It's not a bad thing.

Notonthestairs · 14/03/2023 13:08

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1098831/BBC_Group_Annual_Report_and_Accounts_2021_22__1_.pdf

Financial report begins page 54 I think.
Dave is owned by BBC studios I think,

BBC Studios, the BBC’s main commercial
subsidiary, experienced strong growth over
the past year as the business recovered from
the pandemic. BBC Studios recorded income
of £1,630 million, an increase of 30%
year-on-year, resulting in a 50% increase in
EBITDA to £226 million. BBC Studios
became responsible for the management of
BBC Global News on 1 July 2021, aligning
international commercial activities under
single leadership, enabling a holistic
approach to international audiences. To
capitalise on our UK production model, BBC
Three in-house activity transferred to BBC
Studios on 1 April 2021, and BBC Children’s
Productions Limited transferred to the
Studios Group on 1 April 2022. BBC Studios
continues to drive value for money to licence
fee payers through high quality programme
production and distribution and its financial
contribution to the BBC Group

SoTedious · 14/03/2023 13:14

there are some BBC shows that you can only watch on Netflix

Like what?

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notonbodycomparisonsites · 14/03/2023 17:20

SoTedious · 14/03/2023 13:05

Well Dave is owned by BBC Studios, which is not the same as the BBC, it's a production company that makes content for all sorts of commercial and non-commercial broadcasters. So you can see ads in BBC Studios content on lots of platforms depending on who commissioned it. Ofcom rules mean that BBC Studios is kept quite separate from the BBC so as not to disadvantage other suppliers. There are no shareholders making money from this - its profits are paid as a dividend to the BBC and are reinvested.

The BBC has always sold content to other distributors - I'm not sure whether you are arguing that it should give its content to Netflix for free, instead of maximising your money by selling it, or that it shouldn't make it available to Netflix customers at all.

These days rights and revenue from secondary sales very often rest in the production companies after an 18 month window but nevertheless the big corporations buying thjs stuff subsidise tv in the UK. When the BBC floated the idea of restricting the sale of content, there were complaints that it would be detrimental to licence fee payers who would lose out on content subsidised by Netflix, Amazon and Disney. It's not a bad thing.

Ah, brilliant. They can house their impartial bullshit over there then and leave the basic trustworthy things alone for the taxpayer to fund.

simples

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SoTedious · 14/03/2023 17:52

*Ah, brilliant. They can house their impartial bullshit over there then and leave the basic trustworthy things alone for the taxpayer to fund.

simples*

Eh? What do you mean?

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