"It's their birthright"

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YABU - not everyone is born equal

YANBU - the concept of anything (other than basic human rights) being predetermined at birth is beyond entitled

I have to say I found the use of that phrase by the Royal Wokenesses highly amusing. They are completely tone deaf.

What's amazing about them is they live so comfortably in this cognitive dissonance. On the one hand the Royal Family is an outdated institution with laughable customs like curtseying for the monarch but on the other these (presumably meaningless?) titles are a birthright of their children. They are utterly bizarre.

The system is very unfair, but I think we are socially engineered to believe in primogeniture or at least children inheriting from parents.

@ReneBumsWombats

'in that that's the system and how it works'

but didn't 'they' create the system for themselves by invading / fighting centuries ago and claiming ownership of the country?
(and the foreshore,)
(and the swans,)

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Whenever I read these H&M threads I imagine a whole table of women in their 20s and 30s choosing similar sounding usernames and tapping away in an open plan office somewhere in Montecito, being paid by the hour to support H&M.

People aren't born equal. Never have been.

People are of course equal. Some are more advantaged than others, it's not 'entitled' to have something someone else doesn't have. Am I 'entitled' because I own a car and some people can't afford one?

Also, it is literally their birthright, isn't it. Literally something that is their right because of being born. An inheritance isn't a birthright, it could all get left to the cat's home and to assume or demand it would be entitled. But a hereditary title is definitely a birthright.

The child is a US citizen and resident.
The USA is a republic
They shouldn't use the title.

Maybe Americans will just laugh and not acknowledge the titles.

Every single person on this thread benefits from birthright. Noone chooses to acknowledge it but being born in the west already puts you at a big advantage over 80-90% of the rest of the world.

Yes there's disparities within wealthy country's but we all effectively won the gene lottery already by being where we are. I get this isn't really the debate here but globally it's exactly the same thing, we're all but the absolute poorest in our societies, extremely privileged and have huge advantages over billions of others across the world.

I think it's all stupid. The whole wealth equals power is just an illusion modern society indoctrinates people into. And rather than thinking rich countries feel entitled to basics such as shelter/healthcare... it should be every human right, we raise the bar not lower it. No one made developments and advancements for humanity thinking hmm only that country can have it, it was done for evolution of our species as a whole. It's just pockets of people on a power trip decided to use it as leverage against the people which is quite sick.

In my view the people who are born privileged rather than being who has money or status, is who has the genetics designed to propel us further, the lack of genetic defects in DNA, the best genes from each diverse nation etc. realistically in a cataclysmic event they are more likely to survive adversity and money will at that point be redundant.

I don't think this is just about the royal family. Isn't it a case in some religions that the first born son is the "head" of the family after the father? Even if they are born after many females?

Exactly. The hypocrisy is off the charts.

Aristocracy and titles need to go. The idea that someone is more worthy because they were born from someone's privileged loins is ridiculous.
I understand life is unequal some people have more wealthy parents etc , but you wouldn't bow or have to show respect because someone is rich. It's sad I like the history of the RF but it's not relevant to 2023 everyone is equal.