Ex records all phone calls with our child. Is this legal?

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Ex has phone calls with child alongside regular contact. He admits to recording all of the calls and I feel he delights in the power that comes with this, if child is ever making plans or mentions something new or that they have mentioned before, ex delights in saying hang on let me look back and check the calls.
At no point have I consented to this. Is it legal?

Are they court orders calls?

Yes

I don't know about legal but it sounds weird - what is he trying to check? How does he listen to previous calls while still talking to child? What does he say if he does / doesn't find the topic mentioned? Ah, you mentioned this before? / Oh, you haven't mentioned it before? There doesn't seem to be any point either way.

How can it be illegal for him to record his own phone calls with his own child? Why would he need your consent? It’s very odd and he sounds like a prick but that’s the height of it.

Where I am you have to let the person know you’re recording the call. Maybe something similar there?

If you are in the UK I think he can record them as long as the recordings are for his own use. he is a weirdo though. Who is he trying to control? you or his child? What does your child say when his dad does a search of recordings? He'll be lucky to get a phone call as soon as your child is old enough to make up his own mind about that kind of shit.

When he searches back is it addressed to the child, or to you? And how old is the child?

How old is child in here? Although I assume he has pr so nothing can be done . Is child objecting ?

Very odd.

But I can't see how it would be illegal to record his own child.

It might help to get legal advice in case there’s anything mentioned about recording conversations etc. Once you have the relevant information, you can speak to you ex, possibly with a mediator, and tell him if it makes you and your child uncomfortable. And if you’ve found that it’s illegal, then he can be notified by your solicitors to stop doing that.

At a push you'd have to be able to prove he's using the recordings to be abusive or coercive. Like incidents where he's using them to confuse or gaslight your child (I.e. saying something was said and saying he has the recording but never proving it - using the fact he records as "proof" that what he says goes if that makes sense?).

If you're concerned, recording itself isn't illegal, so you could do it too to check how he's using them.

Wow how controlling. Idk how the courts would view this. It sounds as if it could be causing all manner of distress to your child. How old is your dc? The only thing you could do is start recording the conversations too and prove he’s doing it as he will reveal he’s recording his dc. I think I would consult a solicitor first to discuss whether this reaches the definition of coercive control. and to ‘prove’ you are only doing this as you’re concerned for your child’s welfare.

Its legal, its well known by social services that abusive controlling men do this. Nothing you can do about it unfortunately.

I know you say he admits to recording his calls but 'I'll check back' sounds more like scrolling through messages. Who could be arsed listening through half an hour of a call to get to the bit you want, or lots of calls if you don't remember the day of the conversation?

Has he ever been accused of saying something wrong to your child?

Has anyone ever accused him of lying when he said that the child told him something?